With all the Apple rumors over the past week or so, Brenda and I were discussing whether we’d rather see a grown-up iPod Touch-style UMPC from the company, or a full-sized MacBook Tablet. As a Tablet PC user in the past, I’m a sucker for the full-sized option running OS X; Brenda is more keen on something super-portable that will kick Microsoft’s UMPC format into the dust. In the end, we decided to argue it out online and give SlashGear readers the chance to throw in their opinions too; we’re calling it “He Said, She Said” and you can read our thoughts (and leave your own) after the cut.

Brenda: Apple’s goal as of late been to put a computer in your pocket. And while the iPhone does fit in your pocket, it doesn’t have all of a computer’s functionality yet. But it could. And an UMPC mini-tablet of sorts would be the next logical step toward totally mobile computing. Still maintaining ultimate portability at about double the iPhone’s size, an UMPC would contain third-party program support, an easier to use QWERTY keyboard and the look and feel of a standard Mac OS–all notable improvements over the iPhone without sacrificing the sleek and compact design Apple is going for.

Chris: It doesn’t matter if you choose to judge a product’s potential market by the current users trying to achieve the same thing or by the amount of times it’s requested: a full-sized Mac Tablet wins on both counts. Right now huge numbers of digital artists are using MacBooks and Mac desktops hooked up to graphics tablets; there’s your instant audience. Not to mention the people tempted by Microsoft’s Tablet PC platform but turned off by Windows. Plus it’s not as if it would even be that difficult to put together: the hardware for a low-weight slate is right there in the MacBook Air, or you could trade a few ounces for extra grunt and base it on the MacBook Pro.
Brenda: Certainly there’s a market for a full Mac Tablet, but there’s an even larger one for a Mac UMPC. The iPhone was an introduction to Apple for many people, so an UMPC will act as a lure further into the Apple camp. Besides, it’s a lot easier to convince consumers to spend extra cash on a device that supplements their regular computer than a whole new computer. The best and most successful technologies have been bold and totally new, but they’ve also been certain of a market. The Mac UMPC has a built-in market of iPhone users looking for something more. It’s that simple.
Chris: It could be that simple, or it could just muddy the water. Apple’s current ranges are all about clear differentiation: the iPod Touch is the iPhone 3G without cellular or GPS; the MacBook Air is the notebook for users who prioritize travelling ease above all else. A Mac Tablet would be the device for people who live in pen input scenarios rather than keyboard or even iPhone-style touchscreens, not just an oversized iPod Touch. As for the cost, well, there’s pretty much no audience like Apple’s at being so willing to spend significant amounts! If you add up what a MacBook plus one of Wacom’s professional graphic tablets (or, heaven forbid, their Cintiq tablet-display) would cost you, that’s a fair amount to play with; plus you get the portability of an all-in-one device.
Brenda: While a Mac Tablet would certainly qualify as an all-in-one device, it would only serve a narrow slice of the Apple market pie. Hardly anyone would want to substitute their main computer for a Mac Tablet for one reason and one reason alone–ergonomics. While a tablet is fine if attached to a monitor, it cannot work alone. Think of the crick you’d get in your neck from looking down at it, or the pain in your wrist from trying to work at an awkward, upright angle/ It’s just not practical for day-to-day use. An UMPC would act as your computer on the go with tablet properties. It’s the best of both worlds and you won’t hurt your neck or wrist using it.
Chris: A quick look at Apple’s current range shows that they’re not afraid of potentially narrow niches - the MacBook Air is one such example - plus the lure of a Mac Tablet would likely bring new buyers in rather than cannibalize existing sales. Are people really going to carry an Apple UMPC as well as an iPhone and/or a MacBook? The iPhone fits in your pocket, whereas a UMPC would have to go into a bag (though I admit it could be a smaller bag than a full-sized notebook). Best of both worlds, to Apple at least, could mean people buying one device instead of two. Don’t underestimate the draw of OS X with pen-input; you only have to look at our review of Axiotron’s ModBook to see how a non-graphics person can fall in love with Apple software and a stylus to control it.
Brenda: While Apple thrives on targeting niche markets, they also have entered a new age–the iPhone age. They’ve changed how we look at mobile devices and it takes no leap of the imagination to picture an UMPC fitting snugly into consumer’s hands. While it won’t fit in your pocket, per say, it will be a lightweight device that is much more portable than a tablet–which, to be of any use would need to be rather large–and will give people a way to compute on the go. The touch technology lends itself better to handheld devices and unless you want to tote a stylus, too (which hasn’t even been implemented into the Mac Touch tech yet) you’re facing an awkward device that would be better off as an occasional tool than a daily must-have. A Mac UMPC would be a device you’d use everyday, at home and out and about, whether it’s to answer e-mails, draft reports or surf the web.
Chris: I’m not sure graphic artists and other mobile professionals would describe their current tablets as “occasional tools”, and it doesn’t take much of a jump to imagine both the iPhone’s capacitive touch layer as well as a Wacom stylus-specific layer in the same device. There are already Tablet PCs that automatically shut off the finger-touch response when the stylus is nearby. I don’t think there’s any argument that either a Mac Tablet or UMPC would find buyers, it’s more where those buyers come from: stolen from users of Microsoft’s Tablet PC or people upgrading from their iPod Touch. Or, to pre-empt you, stolen from Apple’s own artist buyers or Microsoft’s UMPC niche! It could come down to whichever Apple believes are the biggest audience balanced against its own potential loss from other ranges.

Brenda: Even so, Apple is known for pulling surprises out of their sleeves at the last moment. Rumors of a new product this fall are in hot debate, but it seems both the UMPC and tablet are equally likely. Apple has patents for both such devices, so anything is possible. Since a mod-tablet has already been made, Apple may want to ensure an official product is available to consumers. However, a dockable UMPC could act as a product stepping stone for those less familiar with Apple.
Chris: Of course, either of them would undoubtedly bring something new to the niche, and I think both of us would be happy with either a full-sized Tablet or a smaller UMPC. Having a smaller device that docks is something that has come up in concepts (and patents) before; it’d also be a relatively fresh idea, and that would fit in with the “state of the art new product” that Apple’s execs promised during the financial conference call. Multitouch could work on both, and handwriting recognition has been around in OS X in the shape of InkWell for some time now. In the end, Apple being Apple, whatever they announce there’s a fair chance it’s going to be a complete curve-ball.
Think we’re barking up the wrong (Apple) tree? Want to throw your vote in for a Mac UMPC or a full-sized MacBook Touch tablet? Let us know what you think in the comments.
[UMPC mockup via Flickr]






As much as i love portability, I would have to agree with Chris on this one. Replacing physical keyboard on a full time computing machine is not going to work unless Apple can change the way people compute.
This brings out a good point on Brenda’s opinion on how Apple always change the way people use and see technology.
Both of you got it right to some extend, but I personally hope Apple’s ultra portable tablet would have physical keyboard
What is a UMPC? Please let’s stop using abbreviations all the time, we should be able to speak and write words, properly spelled and not to be primitive and use only one letter from each word which is properly describing an object. Communication is not a quiz, but it is a skill! Therefore no “whatnot” and “what it is” UMPC, if a Palm is a UMPC, I got rid of it years ago, if not I still don’t use one. Could you please spend more time providing information backed up by facts and stop the silly speculation?
UMPC? Ultra Mobile Personal Computer? Smart! The objects described are not mobile, they don’t move on their own, they have to be carried. Therefore they could be called Ultra Portable Personal Computers. UPPC, for abbreviation lovers. Then why bother with the word “Ultra” if something is portable it it, ultra or not, what is the difference? A small child cannot carry a “portable” chainsaw, but an adult could. Therefore skip the Ultra, which makes the gadget a PPC but if one could be somewhat more inventive, it is a pocket (size) computer, is that difficult to figure out? Oh yes, we already have an abbreviation “PC” for personal computers an abbreviation lovers would suffer if they have to write two words.
There is no way that Apple will produce a tablet that runs Mac OS X, we already have several ways of running the Mac OS - Mac Pro, iMac and Macbooks. The tablet will run an enhanced version of the iPhone OS and definitely no physical keyboard. Remember when Steve Jobs Quoted Wayne Gretzky? “I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it is”.
Putting the Mac OS on a tablet is the kind of lame move that Microsoft makes with mobile phones and UMPCs, the desktop metaphor can work with a standard computer but is completely inappropriate for a mobile device. Besides which Steve Jobs in an aesthete of the highest order, expect a Zen like purity of design when Apple eventually launches its tablet device.
I am with the lady…
I want a BIG iphone, essentially. something about the size of a paper back book, with 3G/Bluetooth/WiFI, so that I can run OFFICE like programs. Google Docs, whatever… and a fully functional browser.
3G and Mobile me if used correctly, would be fantastic for this device, file storage at mobile me, would make this a fantastic option. I could use a handheld, for portable work, then use a desktop ask needed.
I also like how apple has place itself inbetween the cell providers and the customer with the mobileme service… you can flip providers, but your data sits at apple.. which is why its so hard for me, as all my data sits with google currently…
I will be in line for the megaPhone
A UMPC (I don’t care what they call it) secondary device would be awesome, Wacom style. Something that on its own can be your basic web browser/storage. And connected to your mac becomes a tablet. CPU/RAM enhancer would be an added bonus.
I’m a graphic artist…. And if that’s what its going to be I’m sold.
I gotta side with UMPC. I love the idea of a mac tablet. Actually, I had the jones on getting a touchscreen lappy for a few months but couldn’t convince myself to pull the trigger. There’s alot of novelty there, and I would love to use it for specific artistic endevors (musical, design, multimedia). However, I don’t feel that there really is a mass market for that kind of thing. Especially when you’re going to throw in the premium on touchscreen anything.
What I feel Apple has ignored for a long time, is the fact that their ‘cheaper’ products sell well. Say what you will about interface/design/etc, but iPods for a long time have always been a deal in terms of gigs per dollar. Especially considering it’s from a reputable company. The iPhone 3G is a downright DEAL, imo. I’m not sure if people would call it a ’smart phone’ (as I’m not sure of the exact definition myself), but it has alot of features for $299. Of course you’re roped into a contract, but that happens with other fully-featured phones as well.
So I think that Apple should go with an UMPC. The important factor should be the price, which should be around 350-450. Going with OSX would be important imo, because UMPCs have more of a ‘productivity imperative’ about them than ‘a phone that lets you google, check your email, play music and games’. UMPCs are more computer like, so go with a real OS. Give it WiFi, but no cellular connection. This will drive the cost down, and they won’t have to worry about undercutting the iPhone or their precious iTunes Store.
Give it a slideout keyboard, and perhaps innovate with having it connect with your computer over WiFi, perhaps integrate as a remote with AppleTV. Just remember- at most you have to keep it sub-$500 or no one will see the need for it.
I don’t really thinks it matters at all what they come out with as I’m sure we’ll all go crazy over it the second it comes out.
You’re both wrong.
Apple’s next big thing will be to enhance the Apple TV (yet again) to make it a true media server, capable of meeting all your home media needs, with 500 GB of storage (up from the current pitiful amount), the ability to download Apple Lossless files from iTunes, HDMI 1.3 output, the ability to Time Machine its big media archive back to Time Capsule, and synchronize itself with iPods and iPhones.
Doing so expands Apple’s already growing footprint in the home entertainment / media convergence market, which is a far far bigger market than for tablet PCs and UMPCs.
It will be a $400-$600 Atom-based MID/UMPC with 8-10 inch touchscreen display and built-in WiMax/WiFi.
As far as the UMPC goes, Apple has been there, done that. Then Jobs killed it. It was called the Newton, and anyone who stuck with it was both delighted as it matured, and disgusted when it was killed. Developers felt even worse. Apple won’t do it again because that would mean Jobs admitting he was wrong. He already did that this week. May have to wait for the next coming of Haley’s coment before that’ll happen again. Tablets are way niche. You are more likely to see one in your doctor’s hands than in your local artist’s. Still, look for some kind of convergence thinking. Apple is getting some Mac uplift from the iPhone, but that will flatten, and not much benefit from its multi-media efforts. Cracking the mid- large enterprise market will be tough and take time, and the iPhone is the only way in for the forseeable future. The MobileMe fiasco set that effort back a lot more than anyone has guessed so far. Apple could own the consumer market, pushing Sony out, but they’ll have to get there ahead of HP. So, they have to continue their longer-term strategy of getting many more people to buy something less expensive from Apple and then converting them into the flock. I hate to say it, but us long-time faithful are not going to get the attention we crave for some time to come. Just more ways to spend twice what we should have to. Apple appears to be hitting on all cylinders lately, but it is on a necessarily risky course to ensure future growth. Should be an interesting year ahead.