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Yet more PS3 news, a little less dramatic than earlier but perhaps more useful in the long run.  ITmedia +D Games and Game Watch have both covered upgrading the PS3’s internal hard-drive to 80gb and 100gb respectively, photo documenting what looks like a pretty easy (albeit potentially warranty-spoiling) procedure.  The drive cage is accessible via a panel on one side, and contains a 2.5-inch serial ATA model commonly found in notebooks, the Seagate Momentus 5400.2.  Check out the pictures (and a screen-shot of size evidence) after the cut.

PS3 HDD upgrade

PS3 HDD upgrade

PS3 HDD upgrade

The PS3 automatically asks that the new drive is formatted, after which the full capacity is available:

PS3 HDD upgrade - screenshot

ITmedia [translated] and Game Watch [translated]

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  1.  jarrett   View all comments by jarrett  +2  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    man that just tops the whole 360 problems

  2.  max   View all comments by max  +14  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    This won’t void the warranty, when you call tech support about ‘issues’ (in my case a crawling color line) the tech told me to take out the hard drive, I asked if that voids the warranty, he said no… so it’s all good as far as coverage.

  3.  Joey   View all comments by Joey  +12  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I hate xbox 360 and proud of it

  4.  alan mcilwraith   View all comments by alan mcilwraith  +16  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    i think people overrate the x box 360

  5.  Endryion PSN ID   View all comments by Endryion PSN ID  +10  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    personally i mean no offence to bill gates by saying this but he can take his X-box and shove it up someplace warm and puckered, right ow im just trying to find a 200gb hd to upgrade my PS3 with, then im trying to install APPLE OSX just to give him one more punt in the jewels

  6.  Frank luvs his ps3   View all comments by Frank luvs his ps3  +8  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Where can I find a hdd to replace my current ps3 20gig? Surely it needs to be a certain type, right? I would love to hear from some of you that have already changed the hard drives in your machines. Is there a way to transfer files or do you just lose them?

  7.  Russell   View all comments by Russell  +12  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Any 2.5″ SATA drive will do just fine…. Now its onto soldering on some more RAM (MOD2)

  8.  EAGLE   View all comments by EAGLE  +5  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    it’s great, you can backup your files and just putt them back when your done:P

  9.  ian p   View all comments by ian p  +2  Add karma Subtract karma Quote
  10.  Edgar   View all comments by Edgar  +10  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    hey i was reading about upgradeing your ps3’s hdd and i’ve read that the largest size existing right now was 160 gb but while searching best buy online i found this
    “Western Digital - 320GB Internal Hard Drive WD3200KSRTL
    Serial ATA interface; SecureConnect connection; data transfer rate up to 300MB/sec; 16MB buffer” i’m not sure about the speed of it, but if it were to be the 5400rpm as the original ps3’s would it this hdd work?

  11.  krazyps3   View all comments by krazyps3  -12  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    yeh ps3 iz soo much better than da 360, it can play blu ray disc where as for miicrosoft, u need a 200 adapter to play da hd dvds in 1080p, plus ps3 has bluetooth and wifi, ps3 may not have has many game titles as da 360 but it has greater potential to develop better games in da future because of the advantage of the 6axis controller,

  12.  Skyman99   View all comments by Skyman99  -4  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I’m a playstation fan obviously… and if you look at those new Xbox 360 elites they say we got huge memory expansions. to 120 Gigs. Well now for the ps3 we got those too. And were like what? 4-5 months in unlike them where they are almost 2 years in? I think thier a joke.

  13.  GreenAngel   View all comments by GreenAngel  +5  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    go here and u can get dis 250gb drive for ps3 at 5400 RPM…
    im getting it

  14.  Deevo   View all comments by Deevo  +6  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Here’s one that was recommended

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/.....6822149057

    It’s 120 GB, technically 111 GB, cause of the formatting

    but it’s at a great price for what it’s worth

    check it out

    I’m probably gonna upgrade mine with it

  15.  Don   View all comments by Don  +4  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Team Xecutor has a neato little dongle that allows you to connect 3.5 inch drives to the PS3. Its 26 dollars, and allows you to expand up to a 1 TB hard drive.

  16.  Pawanjit/ FLUBBA   View all comments by Pawanjit/ FLUBBA  -36  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    the only reason people are buying the wii is that it is cheap!! it’s not that innovative, with shit games, just because you can wave you’re arms about like a idiot playing a game with no quality, shit graphics and poor depth and content, (FACT!), does not make a system good, it’s for stupid simple minded people with no brain, who can’t figure out how to use a light switch, the xbox 360 it is a good system and i might might buy one if i c it in a jumble sale in some pub car park, it has good games but really offers poor value for money considering how much they charge for add-ons to bring it up to their full spec even then it does not come near the ps3, the xbox 360 elite just has a larger hard drive with a few hardware adjustments, it still is not touch on the ps3, the PS3 has wireless internet, via wi-fi, wireless bluetooth pad’s, blu-ray player(£1000+), and hidden hardware thast will be unlocked via software updates, and despite what some idiots think, it has some excellent games,(RFOM is better than HALO 3), everyone keeps moaning about the price but it is only £400 in th uk and $500 in the us, do you really think that is exspensive considering the features that are available to you now and in the future? (NO!), stop complaining about the costa and just save up a bit more or get a better paid job and stop bad mouthing the best console(PS3).

    ps. to all the lazy layabouts in this country get a job!! and to al;l those other xbox 360 idiots if you get paid on friday and are broke on monday then even a 10p pack of tangy toms! will seem exspensive, like it or F*** **F!

  17.  Pawanjit/ FLUBBA   View all comments by Pawanjit/ FLUBBA  -23  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    the only reason people are buying the wii is that it is cheap!! it’s not that innovative, with shit games, just because you can wave you’re arms about like a idiot playing a game with no quality, shit graphics and poor depth and content, (FACT!), does not make a system good, it’s for stupid simple minded people with no brain, who can’t figure out how to use a light switch, the xbox 360 it is a good system and i might might buy one if i c it in a jumble sale in some pub car park, it has good games but really offers poor value for money considering how much they charge for add-ons to bring it up to their full spec even then it does not come near the ps3, the xbox 360 elite just has a larger hard drive with a few hardware adjustments, it still is not touch on the ps3, the PS3 has wireless internet, via wi-fi, wireless bluetooth pad’s, blu-ray player(£1000+), and hidden hardware thast will be unlocked via software updates, and despite what some idiots think, it has some excellent games,(RFOM is better than HALO 3), everyone keeps moaning about the price but it is only £400 in th uk and $500 in the us, do you really think that is exspensive considering the features that are available to you now and in the future? (NO!), stop complaining about the costa and just save up a bit more or get a better paid job and stop bad mouthing the best console(PS3).

    ps. to all the lazy layabouts in this country get a job!! and to al;l those other xbox 360 idiots if you get paid on friday and are broke on monday then even a 10p pack of tangy toms! will seem exspensive, like it or F*** **F!

    forget the 360 elite!!, i’d rather get a commodore 64 and load my games via tape cassette!! bill gates should stick to making software which is shit aswell!! and leave hardware to the proffesionals(SONY!)

  18.  SteveoXP   View all comments by SteveoXP  +19  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    the only reason people are buying the wii is that BLAH BLAH BLAH like it or F*** **F!

    You my friend are the most narrow minded moron I have ever had the misfortune to see type crap on the internet.
    Why do people like you start to get all anal when other people don’t like what you like?

  19.  Ps3 Overlord   View all comments by Ps3 Overlord  -11  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Xbox 360 suck **** and ps3 rule

  20.  sadfasdfasdfa   View all comments by sadfasdfasdfa  +9  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    But then again remember that if Playstation didn’t have anyone to compete with, then they would never upgrade there stuff.

  21.  Open Minded Gamer   View all comments by Open Minded Gamer  +21  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Here’s my scoop on the whole console war. I traded in my PS2 for a Wii because I eventually just stopped playing games on it and used it for a DVD player. The Wii was fun, and has some excellent games that really show how the motion control capabilities make up for last-gen graphics. I ended up getting my hands on a large sum of money (don’t ask), and I went and bought myself a PS3, just because it was supposed to be the best. A couple months down the line one, of my friends ended up needing some money really bad and sold me his Xbox 360 for dirt cheap. I now find myself with my hands on all three next-gen consoles, which are all hooked up to a Samsung LN-S5797D, a 57″ 1080p capable LCD screen. After having extensively played all three systems, I found a few things out. The Wii is just as much fun to play as the others. While they rely on graphics to pull you in, the Wii immerses you in the game-play with its fluid controls. The graphics on the PS3 really stand out, but after having played the huge library of games that I have acquired for all three games, there are more than a few 360 games that put PS3 graphics to shame (Gears of War and Halo 3 Beta for instance). Also, I’d like to point out that more than a few developers are complaining about the Cell processor, and how hard it is to program games for. I’d also like to point out that Sony is placing the entire future of the PS3 on the success of the Blue-ray disks. As I can recall, Sony has done this before and ended up bombing out multiple times (Beta tapes and Audio CD’s anyone?) While the disk storage space does allow for very impressive levels of data to be implemented in games, they would have been smart to use regular DVD’s and wait to see which format, Blue-Ray or HD-DVD, will be the better product. Being more expensive doesn’t necessarily mean better, as beta tapes proved. The Xbox 360 does seem to have the most hardware problems of the group, but mine has yet to encounter any roadblocks, along with many of my friend’s systems. The 360 definitely has the advantage of Xbox Live and a huge library of games, both of which have been unmatched by Sony and Nintendo alike, and they haven’t decided to throw their full support behind one of the two competing next-gen disk formats, although they do have a HD-DVD add-on peripheral. Now I know, Sony is introducing Home soon, and yes, it does look promising, but as of yet it is unproven, and the problem still arises of cost. Yes, I know, to all of you ready to flame me with talk of PS3 online being free, but think of this. PS2’s online was “free”, but the developers were free to charge monthly rates and such ON EVERY GAME that they felt it was necessary to do so. Xbox Live charges one flat monthly fee that applies no matter how many games you play online, no extra costs. I can definitely see the developers deciding to charge gamers independently of Sony, as many of them have reported publicly that the rising costs of developing games is becoming too much to handle. As such, here is my review in a nutshell. All three companies have focused on what they do best. Sony has delivered cutting-edge hardware. Nintendo has focused on what they do best, making fun games, and Microsoft has created an all-around system that has proven itself with an excellent online component that will be tough to beat. I am in no way a fan-boy of any of the three companies, and as such I will not say which system I feel is the better choice for gamers. This is only an honest opinion and information on all three that I have acquired during the years as I looked forward to, bought and played each of the three consoles. And I completely agree with SteveoXP’s comments. Pawanjit/ FLUBBA, you are obviously a Sony fan boy, and there is nothing wrong with that. You personally like the PS3 experience more, and you are entitled to your opinion. But you do not need to post online like some f***ing idiot and call down everyone who does not share your view of the gaming world. You are the only one who is being ( and I quote you here) “stupid simple minded … with no brain.” You are correct in that hardware wise, The PS3 does beat out the 360, but as I said, games make the system, not the hardware.

    I am going to quote you again by posting this:

    “everyone keeps moaning about the price but it is only £400 in th uk and $500 in the us, do you really think that is exspensive considering the features that are available to you now and in the future? (NO!), stop complaining about the costa and just save up a bit more or get a better paid job and stop bad mouthing the best console(PS3).

    ps. to all the lazy layabouts in this country get a job!! and to al;l those other xbox 360 idiots if you get paid on friday and are broke on monday then even a 10p pack of tangy toms! will seem expensive, like it or F*** **F!”

    You, my friend, are definitely the most stupid, simple-minded and ego-antagonistic person I have ever had the displeasure of conversing with. I am a 19 year old who just happened to come across a great job that pays well. If it wasn’t for the excess of money that I make, I wouldn’t have the systems, games or the TV. Many people who raise kids, are going to school and in other word don’t have mommy and daddy paying for their every whim and desire, will not be able to afford the PS3. Until you grow up and realize that living on your own in the world costs a hell of a lot more than you think it does, do us all a favor and never post online again. It will make the world a much better place, and it’ll save parents from having their kids come across and learn from one of the worst examples of human intelligence I have ever seen.

    This has been my honest opinion and “review-of-sorts” on all three systems. If you have any comments about them, email me at ITS_THE_NEW_GUY@hotmail.com. I’ll be happy to answer any questions, or address any concerns you have.
    Good day everyone.

    p.s. Pawanjit/ FLUBBA, I really hope you can grow-up a bit, so that, god-forbid, if you ever have kids, they never turn out to be racist, egotistical maniacs. The world has enough of those.

  22.  Bairdyboy   View all comments by Bairdyboy  +2  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Hi evry1, i have read evry1’s messages and have come to a conclusion that you all have a biased view upon gaming (exept open minded gamer). I would just like to say that i think that evry1 that argues the xbox 360 vs PS3 debate should lay down their swords and take their time to actually look at the xbox 360 and the PS3 they are both amazing pieces of technology that have both great games. I know the PS3 doesn’t have enough games (there is 380 games next year coming out) and that the xbox 360’s online gaming isn’t free but there is good and bad in both consoles, just try to look at the bright side of the consoles. I own a PS3 and my friends have all got xbox 360’s and i think they are both gr8. Thanx *BAIRDYBOY* =)

  23.  klipsch1221   View all comments by klipsch1221  +1  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I have a PS3 (****** 1337), XBOX 360 (can go **** itself), and a WII (fun if your bored). The PS3 if by far the better of the three, the only reason i bought a 360 was because of Halo 3 (4 DAYS!!!) and the WII for mario party 8.

    any suggestions on what linux distro to put on it?

  24.  GeeDotOne   View all comments by GeeDotOne  +1  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I’d also like to point out that Sony is placing the entire future of the PS3 on the success of the Blue-ray disks. As I can recall, Sony has done this before and ended up bombing out multiple times (Beta tapes and Audio CD’s anyone?) While the disk storage space does allow for very impressive levels of data to be implemented in games, they would have been smart to use regular DVD’s and wait to see which format, Blue-Ray or HD-DVD, will be the better product

    your an idiot… yea sony had failed with beta but you fail to realize something yourself.. not only did sony come up with that but they also came up with this disk they gambled on that we call a Digital Video Disk… see as dreamcast was using GD-ROMS for their format sony said “hey we jus helped invent the dvd so lets put the future of our ps2 in the hands of this format that isnt on its feet yet” and well dont you know? looks like everyone and their grandmothers has dvds… see there is no advantage to an hd-dvd other than the players are cheaper… they hold less data.. there is less industry support…
    see if your gonna talk about sonys past you gotta remember they also founded one of the most sucessfull formats we all know n love…

  25.  Honu   View all comments by Honu  +3  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I’d also like to point out that Sony is placing the entire future of the PS3 on the success of the Blue-ray disks. As I can recall, Sony has done this before and ended up bombing out multiple times (Beta tapes and Audio CD’s anyone?) While the disk storage space does allow for very impressive levels of data to be implemented in games, they would have been smart to use regular DVD’s and wait to see which format, Blue-Ray or HD-DVD, will be the better product

    your an idiot… yea sony had failed with beta but you fail to realize something yourself.. not only did sony come up with that but they also came up with this disk they gambled on that we call a Digital Video Disk… see as dreamcast was using GD-ROMS for their format sony said “hey we jus helped invent the dvd so lets put the future of our ps2 in the hands of this format that isnt on its feet yet” and well dont you know? looks like everyone and their grandmothers has dvds… see there is no advantage to an hd-dvd other than the players are cheaper… they hold less data.. there is less industry support…
    see if your gonna talk about sonys past you gotta remember they also founded one of the most sucessfull formats we all know n love…

    He is not an idiot … at least i think he is not .. I think that you missed something, Sony did not invent DVD, it just take part in it development later in the project… Hitachi, Toshiba and Matsushita does initiate DVD… ! Sony AND philips juste join the group when their own common project of High density CD was dead. About CD, Philips invent it … not Sony as a lot of people think.

  26.  Minh Vu   View all comments by Minh Vu  +3  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    About CD, Philips invent it … not Sony as a lot of people think.

    Neither Philip nor Sony invented the CD-ROM. James Russell invented the CD-ROM. You guys should do more research…

    http://www.planetpapers.com/Assets/4290.php

    I’ve just bought myself a PS3 yesterday at bestbuy because Wii was not in stock.

  27.  germjames   View all comments by germjames  +3  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I’d also like to point out that Sony is placing the entire future of the PS3 on the success of the Blue-ray disks. As I can recall, Sony has done this before and ended up bombing out multiple times (Beta tapes and Audio CD’s anyone?) While the disk storage space does allow for very impressive levels of data to be implemented in games, they would have been smart to use regular DVD’s and wait to see which format, Blue-Ray or HD-DVD, will be the better product

    your an idiot… yea sony had failed with beta but you fail to realize something yourself.. not only did sony come up with that but they also came up with this disk they gambled on that we call a Digital Video Disk…

    I don’t like people correcting each other so much usually, but as you guys have made some very good points but seem just slightly too smug, i’ll remind you DVD is digital Versatile Disc. Many, many people think it’s video but it’s not.

  28.  Cort   View all comments by Cort  -3  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Well i droped a shoe on my PS3 and i broke the hard disk.

    silly i know.

    anyone from UK know where i can get a new hard disk?

    many thanks :)

  29.  poo   View all comments by poo  -5  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    ps3 is big and fat.

  30.  Jungle Fever   View all comments by Jungle Fever  +1  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I like ‘em all.

    Yeeeooo!!!!

  31.  Techman66   View all comments by Techman66  -1  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Anyone know when the Wii 2 is supposed to be coming out??

  32.  Anonymous   View all comments by Anonymous  Neutral  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    using apple still gives gates money he owns about 20% of the company.

  33.  Keny   View all comments by Keny  +1  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    I have all 3 systems, and all of them are great in their own ways. You guys should stop knocking other peoples tastes, I mean your fighting about which company deserves to make more money, it makes no sense. It’s as pointless as fighting about car companies. All that asside, I will be upgrading to a larger HDD, and I’m going to try to put Ubuntu on mine as well, that’s awesome that you can put new OS’s on it.

  34.  Anonymous   View all comments by Anonymous  +2  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    “using apple still gives gates money he owns about 20% of the company.”

    ahh… no. They 7% in options at one time and sold them.

    see” http://forums.macrumors.com/sh.....p?t=328864

  35.  Marc   View all comments by Marc  -1  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Hi I would like to know what’s the fastest Hard Drive you can put in the ps3
    Can a Western Digital Raptor X 150GB fit in? running at 10,000 RPM and what format dose the hard drive need to be at and has any one tryed a Western Digital

    hope to see your replies

  36.  Momoney   View all comments by Momoney  Neutral  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Hi I would like to know what’s the fastest Hard Drive you can put in the ps3
    Can a Western Digital Raptor X 150GB fit in? running at 10,000 RPM and what format dose the hard drive need to be at and has any one tryed a Western Digital

    hope to see your replies

    Searched the internet for reviews on your question to upgrade my 60GB Ps3 last week. Can’t remember the site that did Hdd comparsons or what drives were used, but basically though the diference in speed between 5400rpm & 7200rpm were were not enough.. (were are talking about seconds and fractions of seconds) ..to justify spending more on a faster spinning hdd. Also interestingly the 7200 rpm drive didn’t create a heat problem for the PS3 as expected.

    So just buy the largest capacity 2.5″ 5400rpm sata hdd you can afford and your PS3 will love you for it!

  37.  Alex   View all comments by Alex  +3  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    hi i just got a 40gb ps3 mainly because my xbox360 got the red ring and had to be sent to Microsoft for tow weeks ARRR! don’t get me wrong i love the ps3 it has amazing graphics which by the way do stand out compared to the 360 both plugged in to a 26-inch HD (720p) tv though HDMI but i miss xbox live so much (when playing the ps3) i no u are probably thinking but the ps3 has online play to and for free but xbox live is so worth the money because nearly everyone has a headset and there are way more players

  38.  Ty   View all comments by Ty  +2  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    Yea, sounds like quite a good thing. My cousin has 360 and all I do is hear about problems with them while my other cousin has a PS3 and all he says is how wonderful it is.

  39.  paul   View all comments by paul  Neutral  Add karma Subtract karma Quote

    hi i own both 360 and ps3 and here is my honest opion

    step father owns a wii

    xbox 360 firstly

    poorly made broke alot of time due to red ring on me and very poor support altho they have alot of games atm they had more time to produce em them sony atm but in my personal opion they should have put more in to the reliablity after all who wants a console that is no good for long gaming ? i also played xbox live and psn and tbh i dont see much different except rankings and tbh i dont