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	<title>Comments on: You can buy a 20-year light bulb for as low as $25</title>
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		<title>By: PART TRUE PART SCAM</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-205072</link>
		<dc:creator>PART TRUE PART SCAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is True and also a Scam.

 Burn the light Bulb only 2 hours a Day. Why not say burn the Light Bulb on Feb. 29 24 hours and it will last all your life. The rebate is a way to give the company a great cash flow and over 10 % of consumers never get it.
4 Old light bulbs cost $1,00 so for $60.00 you could buy 240 light bulbs that would burn  with only 1,000 hours each. it is a long time.
 Ok it does say you save on elect. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is True and also a Scam.</p>
<p> Burn the light Bulb only 2 hours a Day. Why not say burn the Light Bulb on Feb. 29 24 hours and it will last all your life. The rebate is a way to give the company a great cash flow and over 10 % of consumers never get it.<br />
4 Old light bulbs cost $1,00 so for $60.00 you could buy 240 light bulbs that would burn  with only 1,000 hours each. it is a long time.<br />
 Ok it does say you save on elect. </p>
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		<title>By: Ian Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204523</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a newer version than the existing $20-25 bulb: 10W vs. 12W, 940 lumens vs 800, longer estimated lifespan (27 years vs. 23 at 3 hrs/day). Is it worth double the price? Not likely, but one of the conditions of the L-Prize was to be a $22 bulb and that&#039;s apparently expected to be the case after (behind-the-scenes, included in the final price in the store) power company rebates. Who knows when that&#039;ll happen though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a newer version than the existing $20-25 bulb: 10W vs. 12W, 940 lumens vs 800, longer estimated lifespan (27 years vs. 23 at 3 hrs/day). Is it worth double the price? Not likely, but one of the conditions of the L-Prize was to be a $22 bulb and that&#8217;s apparently expected to be the case after (behind-the-scenes, included in the final price in the store) power company rebates. Who knows when that&#8217;ll happen though.</p>
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		<title>By: ElectricGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204405</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a particular amount of energy delivered to the point of 
utilization, my comments are correct. When and if we discuss a full 
channel, we can examine the other costs. In the meantime, you can trust 
that I have not forgotten the impact of the laws of thermodynamics, 
should we ever discuss heat plants (not our only source of electric power).



In short, we can discuss heat pumps and resistive heat without delving into the entire energy process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a particular amount of energy delivered to the point of<br />
utilization, my comments are correct. When and if we discuss a full<br />
channel, we can examine the other costs. In the meantime, you can trust<br />
that I have not forgotten the impact of the laws of thermodynamics,<br />
should we ever discuss heat plants (not our only source of electric power).</p>
<p>In short, we can discuss heat pumps and resistive heat without delving into the entire energy process.</p>
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		<title>By: ElectricGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204404</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a particular amount of energy delivered to the point of utilization, my comments are correct. When and if we discuss a full channel, we can examine the other costs. In the meantime, you can trust that I have not forgotten the impact of the laws of thermodynamics, should we ever discuss heat plants.

In short, we can discuss heat pumps and resistive heat without delving into the entire energy process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a particular amount of energy delivered to the point of utilization, my comments are correct. When and if we discuss a full channel, we can examine the other costs. In the meantime, you can trust that I have not forgotten the impact of the laws of thermodynamics, should we ever discuss heat plants.</p>
<p>In short, we can discuss heat pumps and resistive heat without delving into the entire energy process.</p>
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		<title>By: Cambrian</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204383</link>
		<dc:creator>Cambrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the total carbon foot print to produce any LED light bulb versus conventional bulbs? That&#039;s a lot of energy, plastics, semiconductor solvents, under the the &quot;Green&quot; label.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the total carbon foot print to produce any LED light bulb versus conventional bulbs? That&#8217;s a lot of energy, plastics, semiconductor solvents, under the the &#8220;Green&#8221; label.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnJohnJ</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204344</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnJohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Author, what on earth made you write &quot;...Philips’s incredible, seemingly infinite-lasting light bulbs...&quot;? You have been sucked in by the Philips marketing machine. Light bulb ratings are written in mumbo jumbo...clearly meant to confuse the consumer. And the numbers are highly questionable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author, what on earth made you write &#8220;&#8230;Philips’s incredible, seemingly infinite-lasting light bulbs&#8230;&#8221;? You have been sucked in by the Philips marketing machine. Light bulb ratings are written in mumbo jumbo&#8230;clearly meant to confuse the consumer. And the numbers are highly questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: PragmaticBob</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204337</link>
		<dc:creator>PragmaticBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa, ElectricGuy. You&#039;re forgetting that the electricity was generated at 31% efficiency in a coal plant or some similarly low efficiency in other kinds of thermoelectric generating stations. Gas and propane both use energy to be delivered to your house as well and I don&#039;t know what choice is the most efficient, but you have to look at the whole energy production and delivery system before making efficiency claims....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, ElectricGuy. You&#8217;re forgetting that the electricity was generated at 31% efficiency in a coal plant or some similarly low efficiency in other kinds of thermoelectric generating stations. Gas and propane both use energy to be delivered to your house as well and I don&#8217;t know what choice is the most efficient, but you have to look at the whole energy production and delivery system before making efficiency claims&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Neutron</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204330</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Neutron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This bulb is way over-engineered.
It won a very stringent contest, yes - but who cares about resisting violent vibrations and other top-of-the-line characteristics ?

I like those cheap LED bulbs that just put lots of little white LED&#039;s together - simple, low-cost.
And as the individual little LED&#039;s get brighter, these bulbs will approach 100 watts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bulb is way over-engineered.<br />
It won a very stringent contest, yes &#8211; but who cares about resisting violent vibrations and other top-of-the-line characteristics ?</p>
<p>I like those cheap LED bulbs that just put lots of little white LED&#8217;s together &#8211; simple, low-cost.<br />
And as the individual little LED&#8217;s get brighter, these bulbs will approach 100 watts.</p>
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		<title>By: zeth006</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204326</link>
		<dc:creator>zeth006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s with the quality of these comments? Since when is slashgear a podium for politics?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with the quality of these comments? Since when is slashgear a podium for politics?</p>
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		<title>By: Polish_ink</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204318</link>
		<dc:creator>Polish_ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got the same light bulb at Home Depot a month ago for $20 - no rebates, just priced at $20.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the same light bulb at Home Depot a month ago for $20 &#8211; no rebates, just priced at $20.</p>
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		<title>By: ElectricGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204314</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ If it&#039;s costing you money to do so, then at least you&#039;re putting your money where your mouth is. But you would  probably change your mind if you thought more about how it all works.

Incandescent and CFL bulbs are essentially all made outside the US, and if I had to choose between a US made bulb by Philips or a Chinese made bulb, I&#039;d choose Philips. And buy some stock.

Next consider the fuel. While we don&#039;t have pure equivalency, once can easily make the case that a watt of electric power saved is a drop of foreign oil not imported. And if we&#039;re cutting imports of Middle East oil for the sake of buying US made lamps from a Dutch company and saving actual cash while doing so, then I&#039;m all for it. You probably are too, if you allow yourself to admit it.

Saving money all the way to energy independence. Imagine that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> If it&#8217;s costing you money to do so, then at least you&#8217;re putting your money where your mouth is. But you would  probably change your mind if you thought more about how it all works.</p>
<p>Incandescent and CFL bulbs are essentially all made outside the US, and if I had to choose between a US made bulb by Philips or a Chinese made bulb, I&#8217;d choose Philips. And buy some stock.</p>
<p>Next consider the fuel. While we don&#8217;t have pure equivalency, once can easily make the case that a watt of electric power saved is a drop of foreign oil not imported. And if we&#8217;re cutting imports of Middle East oil for the sake of buying US made lamps from a Dutch company and saving actual cash while doing so, then I&#8217;m all for it. You probably are too, if you allow yourself to admit it.</p>
<p>Saving money all the way to energy independence. Imagine that.</p>
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		<title>By: ElectricGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204313</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder why people are complaining about foreign companies making lights (of any type) when this is really all about saving money. But if we must look at where the money flows, then we must look at where our energy dollars flow.

Too much flows to people who are generally far less nice than the Chinese (this discussion&#039;s current whipping boys) and who are even farther displaced from the Dutch (also banged up a bit here). If you like, too much flows to energy sources that are killing our planet (and we need not even go to global warming to say that, so please let&#039;s not have that discussion).

Saving energy is a good thing. Saving money while saving energy is a great thing. Taking money from your &quot;enemies&quot; and giving a bit of it to your &quot;friends&quot; is even more powerful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why people are complaining about foreign companies making lights (of any type) when this is really all about saving money. But if we must look at where the money flows, then we must look at where our energy dollars flow.</p>
<p>Too much flows to people who are generally far less nice than the Chinese (this discussion&#8217;s current whipping boys) and who are even farther displaced from the Dutch (also banged up a bit here). If you like, too much flows to energy sources that are killing our planet (and we need not even go to global warming to say that, so please let&#8217;s not have that discussion).</p>
<p>Saving energy is a good thing. Saving money while saving energy is a great thing. Taking money from your &#8220;enemies&#8221; and giving a bit of it to your &#8220;friends&#8221; is even more powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: jesuschristcross</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204312</link>
		<dc:creator>jesuschristcross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;without giving up your data on the rebate&quot;. you &quot;gave up your data&quot; when you created your facebook account. lol indeed. in fact - twice lol. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;without giving up your data on the rebate&#8221;. you &#8220;gave up your data&#8221; when you created your facebook account. lol indeed. in fact &#8211; twice lol. </p>
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		<title>By: jesuschristcross</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204311</link>
		<dc:creator>jesuschristcross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[right. next time just bomb them. and be regressive. it&#039;s easier and way more expensive. then show what you did to your grandchildren. they&#039;ll be proud. assuming - like you - that they&#039;d live in the privileged &quot;group of countries&quot; and not &quot;like villagers with pitchforks&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right. next time just bomb them. and be regressive. it&#8217;s easier and way more expensive. then show what you did to your grandchildren. they&#8217;ll be proud. assuming &#8211; like you &#8211; that they&#8217;d live in the privileged &#8220;group of countries&#8221; and not &#8220;like villagers with pitchforks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ElectricGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204309</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it saves money over those five years, why not?  In five years, buy some more and replace less frequently used lamps. And in ten years, ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it saves money over those five years, why not?  In five years, buy some more and replace less frequently used lamps. And in ten years, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ElectricGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204308</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectricGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Electric resistive heat is more expensive than natural gas (particularly with low NG prices), but much more efficient (100% of the energy is delivered as heat, as opposed to 80%+ with gas). Depending on where you live, electrical resistive heat can be less expensive than propane, with essentially the same efficiency win.

Most folks don&#039;t have heat pumps, to gain that efficiency (moving heat, instead of creating it). And when comparing a light bub against a heat pump, the payback interval is, well, lengthy for the heat pump.

Because situations vary so much, there will not be one perfect answer or application. Low energy consumption generally has payback when usage is high, but may not break even when usage is low. What value is there in putting LED or even CF lamps in a seldom used closet or basement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric resistive heat is more expensive than natural gas (particularly with low NG prices), but much more efficient (100% of the energy is delivered as heat, as opposed to 80%+ with gas). Depending on where you live, electrical resistive heat can be less expensive than propane, with essentially the same efficiency win.</p>
<p>Most folks don&#8217;t have heat pumps, to gain that efficiency (moving heat, instead of creating it). And when comparing a light bub against a heat pump, the payback interval is, well, lengthy for the heat pump.</p>
<p>Because situations vary so much, there will not be one perfect answer or application. Low energy consumption generally has payback when usage is high, but may not break even when usage is low. What value is there in putting LED or even CF lamps in a seldom used closet or basement?</p>
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		<title>By: jesuschristcross</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesuschristcross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when american companies making products worth buying than you can bitch. the only exception is apple. until then you can buy (probably the only) american made light bulbs for $15. and be quiet. and next time somebody comes up with an idea or product that makes your life better or cheaper and you read about it keep your opinions to your self. ok?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when american companies making products worth buying than you can bitch. the only exception is apple. until then you can buy (probably the only) american made light bulbs for $15. and be quiet. and next time somebody comes up with an idea or product that makes your life better or cheaper and you read about it keep your opinions to your self. ok?</p>
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		<title>By: jesuschristcross</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesuschristcross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what if it was? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if it was? </p>
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		<title>By: Ericaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ericaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean like in Iraq and Afghanistan?  I can&#039;t wait to take my grandchildren there!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean like in Iraq and Afghanistan?  I can&#8217;t wait to take my grandchildren there!!</p>
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		<title>By: mike peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204304</link>
		<dc:creator>mike peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a nice bulb, probably the best LED out right now but 50 or 60 dollars is insane. Home Depot had them on sale a couple weeks ago for $20 and that was a purchaseable proce. $10 is the spot where I will replace all the lights in my house. Just wait for purchasing until the price drops. BTW they were the only comapny who entered the competition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a nice bulb, probably the best LED out right now but 50 or 60 dollars is insane. Home Depot had them on sale a couple weeks ago for $20 and that was a purchaseable proce. $10 is the spot where I will replace all the lights in my house. Just wait for purchasing until the price drops. BTW they were the only comapny who entered the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: mike peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They were the only company who entered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were the only company who entered.</p>
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		<title>By: jhdale</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204300</link>
		<dc:creator>jhdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Performance of different brands of LED lights varies quite a bit. Light quality and color are highly variable. If you want dimming, some do it much better than others (some cut out as high as 30% brightness, or flicker when not at full brightness). 

I haven&#039;t tried this particular bulb but similar Philips bulbs have great color quality and dimming performance. Best I&#039;ve seen. The only thing I don&#039;t like is that the bulbs are not particularly nice looking. I don&#039;t care for them in fixtures where the bulbs are exposed. In any fixture with a shade, the Philips are the best choice in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Performance of different brands of LED lights varies quite a bit. Light quality and color are highly variable. If you want dimming, some do it much better than others (some cut out as high as 30% brightness, or flicker when not at full brightness). </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried this particular bulb but similar Philips bulbs have great color quality and dimming performance. Best I&#8217;ve seen. The only thing I don&#8217;t like is that the bulbs are not particularly nice looking. I don&#8217;t care for them in fixtures where the bulbs are exposed. In any fixture with a shade, the Philips are the best choice in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204298</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Meanwhile, for those in temperate climates, older bulbs increase your air conditioning bill, so it&#039;s a wash.

Moreover, electric filament heat is a very inefficient way to heat. My heating contractor tells me when it gets too cold for my heat pump to work, it switches to an electric filament that costs 4x as much to provide heat.

So to the degree your light filaments are providing heat in lieu of a heat pump kicking in....yet another level of inefficiency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Meanwhile, for those in temperate climates, older bulbs increase your air conditioning bill, so it&#8217;s a wash.</p>
<p>Moreover, electric filament heat is a very inefficient way to heat. My heating contractor tells me when it gets too cold for my heat pump to work, it switches to an electric filament that costs 4x as much to provide heat.</p>
<p>So to the degree your light filaments are providing heat in lieu of a heat pump kicking in&#8230;.yet another level of inefficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204295</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually they have been selling these kind of Philips LED bulbs at Home Depot or Amazon for about $25 since last year (depending on wattage).  I have several of them in my home, they work great.  Not sure where the $50 in this article comes from, but the photo looks like maybe its a new model?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually they have been selling these kind of Philips LED bulbs at Home Depot or Amazon for about $25 since last year (depending on wattage).  I have several of them in my home, they work great.  Not sure where the $50 in this article comes from, but the photo looks like maybe its a new model?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Ford</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204296</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ The problem is not that we let them make our stuff.

The problem is that we&#039;re pathetic idiots who would follow the Europeans into a volcano pit if they told us it was &quot;progressive&quot;. 
When you banter on about human rights and how, even though you just gave them technology to add thirty years to their lives, you&#039;re evil for not giving them more you can expect your country to go down the toilet!
Never in history has one group of countries got so far out front and then chastened themselves for it and literally given all of their wealth to the rest of the world, which has been waiting like villagers with pitchforks to get us back for our success.

This is what happens when the real men like Patton are silenced and the feminized &quot;modern managers&quot; like Eisenhower are allowed to realign the world. (&quot;Should we carve up China so it&#039;s manageable and can never present a serious threat? BARBARIC!!! Lets show them how to manufacture, shut down all of our manufacturing plants and then leave our computer networks wide open so they can steal all our hard work and use it against us!!!! PHEW! Good thing we stopped the madmen from creating a receptive world for democracy for our grandchildren!!!&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The problem is not that we let them make our stuff.</p>
<p>The problem is that we&#8217;re pathetic idiots who would follow the Europeans into a volcano pit if they told us it was &#8220;progressive&#8221;.<br />
When you banter on about human rights and how, even though you just gave them technology to add thirty years to their lives, you&#8217;re evil for not giving them more you can expect your country to go down the toilet!<br />
Never in history has one group of countries got so far out front and then chastened themselves for it and literally given all of their wealth to the rest of the world, which has been waiting like villagers with pitchforks to get us back for our success.</p>
<p>This is what happens when the real men like Patton are silenced and the feminized &#8220;modern managers&#8221; like Eisenhower are allowed to realign the world. (&#8220;Should we carve up China so it&#8217;s manageable and can never present a serious threat? BARBARIC!!! Lets show them how to manufacture, shut down all of our manufacturing plants and then leave our computer networks wide open so they can steal all our hard work and use it against us!!!! PHEW! Good thing we stopped the madmen from creating a receptive world for democracy for our grandchildren!!!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Ford</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204293</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Yea! And the fact that you can barely see your hands in front of you when these &quot;lights&quot; are &quot;on&quot; also doesn&#039;t matter!

You should have your house burned down if you don&#039;t buy one of these worthless lightbulbs for fifty dollars! (I&#039;ll buy one that makes it so I can actually still see at night for 4 dollars that lasts for 5 years and be totally fine with it!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Yea! And the fact that you can barely see your hands in front of you when these &#8220;lights&#8221; are &#8220;on&#8221; also doesn&#8217;t matter!</p>
<p>You should have your house burned down if you don&#8217;t buy one of these worthless lightbulbs for fifty dollars! (I&#8217;ll buy one that makes it so I can actually still see at night for 4 dollars that lasts for 5 years and be totally fine with it!)</p>
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		<title>By: Na8reed</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204294</link>
		<dc:creator>Na8reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[L-prize criteria mandates that a winning L-prize lamp must be made in the US]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L-prize criteria mandates that a winning L-prize lamp must be made in the US</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Schultz</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204291</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because if you&#039;re paying 10 cents per kilowatt-hour and you run this for 6 hours a day, you&#039;ll save about $11 per year over an incandescent bulb. So in 5 years this $25 bulb will have saved you $55 in electricity, and you will be $30 ahead. Then you can give it to a friend and buy your (hypothetically) better and cheaper bulb. You&#039;ll be $30 richer and will have an even better friend. Of course, if you put this bulb where it is used only ten minutes a week, it will not pay for itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because if you&#8217;re paying 10 cents per kilowatt-hour and you run this for 6 hours a day, you&#8217;ll save about $11 per year over an incandescent bulb. So in 5 years this $25 bulb will have saved you $55 in electricity, and you will be $30 ahead. Then you can give it to a friend and buy your (hypothetically) better and cheaper bulb. You&#8217;ll be $30 richer and will have an even better friend. Of course, if you put this bulb where it is used only ten minutes a week, it will not pay for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Weparks1</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204290</link>
		<dc:creator>Weparks1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is funny, now you take your light bulb with you when you move! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is funny, now you take your light bulb with you when you move! </p>
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		<title>By: Jafu Bumbalini</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204289</link>
		<dc:creator>Jafu Bumbalini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leave it to this administration to award 10 million dollars in taxpayer funds to a foreign (Dutch) company that develops a $60 light bulb. I&#039;ll consider one when the price drops to about a buck. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to this administration to award 10 million dollars in taxpayer funds to a foreign (Dutch) company that develops a $60 light bulb. I&#8217;ll consider one when the price drops to about a buck. </p>
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		<title>By: Doublezero</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204288</link>
		<dc:creator>Doublezero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  You are arguing about giving up your data on the rebate form?  Really?  How about that Costco membership card in which you gave THEM all of YOUR shopping patterns and purchases?  What about the possibility that they share with their vendors who purchased what and when?

You need to rethink your conspiracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  You are arguing about giving up your data on the rebate form?  Really?  How about that Costco membership card in which you gave THEM all of YOUR shopping patterns and purchases?  What about the possibility that they share with their vendors who purchased what and when?</p>
<p>You need to rethink your conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If everyone thought like you we&#039;d still be using candles as our primary light source.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everyone thought like you we&#8217;d still be using candles as our primary light source.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204284</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a ridiculous statement unless you house is full of high-wattage flood lights or heat lamps.  &quot;Hey guys, gather &#039;round the 60 watter and warm your hands!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a ridiculous statement unless you house is full of high-wattage flood lights or heat lamps.  &#8221;Hey guys, gather &#8217;round the 60 watter and warm your hands!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: webos_lover</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204280</link>
		<dc:creator>webos_lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lets give all our money to china to make our innovative products]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets give all our money to china to make our innovative products</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Schultz</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204281</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, not the same rating, and apparently no longer available at Costco. 
Costco - 857 Lumen 13.1 Watt = 65 Lumens/Watt
Philips - 910 Lumen 9.7 Watt = 94 Lumens/Watt
That&#039;s 44% better efficiency, folks, and if you don&#039;t care about efficiency, why are you buying LEDs when you can still get cheap-in-the-short-run incandescents, and end up paying much more in the long run?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not the same rating, and apparently no longer available at Costco. <br />
Costco &#8211; 857 Lumen 13.1 Watt = 65 Lumens/Watt<br />
Philips &#8211; 910 Lumen 9.7 Watt = 94 Lumens/Watt<br />
That&#8217;s 44% better efficiency, folks, and if you don&#8217;t care about efficiency, why are you buying LEDs when you can still get cheap-in-the-short-run incandescents, and end up paying much more in the long run?</p>
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		<title>By: Edmilsonp</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204277</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmilsonp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why would I buy a bulb that lasts 20 years if I can buy a better - and cheaper - bulb 5 years from now? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would I buy a bulb that lasts 20 years if I can buy a better &#8211; and cheaper &#8211; bulb 5 years from now? </p>
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		<title>By: MadeInUSA</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204275</link>
		<dc:creator>MadeInUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just one question: Was it made in china??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one question: Was it made in china??</p>
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		<title>By: Cleisthenes</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204273</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleisthenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes and no.  Much of the inefficiency of the older light bulbs is given off as heat.  So, if you live in the colder climes it is not going to save you as much, as the savings would be offset by a higher heating bill.  But if you live in the warmer climes with lots of air conditioning, the savings may be more, as a hotter bulb increases the air conditioning bill.  So, no for polar bears and yes for camels...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and no.  Much of the inefficiency of the older light bulbs is given off as heat.  So, if you live in the colder climes it is not going to save you as much, as the savings would be offset by a higher heating bill.  But if you live in the warmer climes with lots of air conditioning, the savings may be more, as a hotter bulb increases the air conditioning bill.  So, no for polar bears and yes for camels&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Onezero</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204267</link>
		<dc:creator>Onezero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.....and I don&#039;t think the other company got (&quot;won&quot;) any government aid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..and I don&#8217;t think the other company got (&#8220;won&#8221;) any government aid.</p>
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		<title>By: Onezero</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/you-can-buy-a-20-year-light-bulb-for-as-low-as-25-22224061/#comment-204265</link>
		<dc:creator>Onezero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can buy 3pack led lights at same rating (although generic brand) at Costco for $35 without giving up your data on the rebate form or waiting for the rebate check. However, showing off the brand of off light bulb is important to some. Lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can buy 3pack led lights at same rating (although generic brand) at Costco for $35 without giving up your data on the rebate form or waiting for the rebate check. However, showing off the brand of off light bulb is important to some. Lol</p>
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