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	<title>Comments on: What the DoJ&#8217;s Apple antitrust means for ebook prices</title>
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		<title>By: David Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops -- I didn&#039;t mean &quot;there&#039;s anything at all legally wrong&quot; with the agent model. Obviously, I meant &quot;there&#039;s NOTHING at all legally wrong.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8212; I didn&#8217;t mean &#8220;there&#8217;s anything at all legally wrong&#8221; with the agent model. Obviously, I meant &#8220;there&#8217;s NOTHING at all legally wrong.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Publishers, like anybody else with a product, could sell directly to consumers if they wanted to do that. In that case, the publisher would of course set the price--they would be the seller.

Publishers, like anybody else, can always hire an assistant to help get things done. That assistant, in legal terms, would be an &quot;agent:&quot; that is, someone acting on behalf of another person, in this case, the publisher. If a publisher hired an agent to help sell books, the publisher could of course, tell the agent at what price to offer the books. (Just the same as if you asked a friend to help sell your car, and you told your friend what you wanted to charge for the car; or you asked a real estate agent to help sell your house, and you told the agent what to charge for the house.)

That&#039;s what Apple is proposing: that it will act as the publishers&#039; agent. Apple wouldn&#039;t really function as a &quot;retailer&quot; at all--it would simply be acting on behalf of the publishers, the way a real estate agent acts on behalf of home sellers.

There&#039;s anything at all legally wrong with anybody running a business in that way. I think the DoJ&#039;s complaint isn&#039;t (or shouldn&#039;t be) that that MODEL is illegal. It is, rather, that Apple and the publishers colluded in some way that antitrust law doesn&#039;t permit. I don&#039;t see how the DoJ could complain about price fixing in particular, though, because nothing in the agent model of book sales requires any particular price.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publishers, like anybody else with a product, could sell directly to consumers if they wanted to do that. In that case, the publisher would of course set the price&#8211;they would be the seller.</p>
<p>Publishers, like anybody else, can always hire an assistant to help get things done. That assistant, in legal terms, would be an &#8220;agent:&#8221; that is, someone acting on behalf of another person, in this case, the publisher. If a publisher hired an agent to help sell books, the publisher could of course, tell the agent at what price to offer the books. (Just the same as if you asked a friend to help sell your car, and you told your friend what you wanted to charge for the car; or you asked a real estate agent to help sell your house, and you told the agent what to charge for the house.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what Apple is proposing: that it will act as the publishers&#8217; agent. Apple wouldn&#8217;t really function as a &#8220;retailer&#8221; at all&#8211;it would simply be acting on behalf of the publishers, the way a real estate agent acts on behalf of home sellers.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s anything at all legally wrong with anybody running a business in that way. I think the DoJ&#8217;s complaint isn&#8217;t (or shouldn&#8217;t be) that that MODEL is illegal. It is, rather, that Apple and the publishers colluded in some way that antitrust law doesn&#8217;t permit. I don&#8217;t see how the DoJ could complain about price fixing in particular, though, because nothing in the agent model of book sales requires any particular price.  </p>
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		<title>By: Wayne McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/what-the-dojs-apple-antitrust-means-for-ebook-prices-12222677/#comment-202071</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This so-called collusion on the part of the publishers and Apple happened over two years ago. Ask yourself why the DOJ waited until now to bring suit. The defendants hid nothing. The complete &quot;scheme&quot; was out there for anyone to read, at the time, in the media. Before the iPad, Amazon was making a remarkably high percentage of ebook sales. Those ebooks could only be read on a Kindle or on a Kindle app. It was an effective monopoly. Amazon accomplished this with a reasonably-priced ereader device, an incredibly simple means of acquiring the ebooks and low prices. The prices were so low, Amazon was selling at a loss compared to what they paid the publisher. Never mind the cost of maintaining the infrastructure needed to sell the ebooks. I&#039;m convinced, if left unchallenged, Amazon would have continued this practice until they were the defacto seller of ebooks. When a customer would think &quot;ebook&quot;, he or she would invariably think Amazon, Kindle or Kindle app - no one else. It doesn&#039;t take a mystery writer to iPad guess what would have come next. If you guessed higher ebook prices, give yourself a gold star. The DOJ couldn&#039;t be seen as aiding and abetting a monopolist (Amazon) so they waited until the iPad was a success to decide, then bring suit. This suit would have never happened if the iPad hadn&#039;t been a success. What Apple did is level the playing field; nothing more. They shouldn&#039;t settle. They could win this suit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This so-called collusion on the part of the publishers and Apple happened over two years ago. Ask yourself why the DOJ waited until now to bring suit. The defendants hid nothing. The complete &#8220;scheme&#8221; was out there for anyone to read, at the time, in the media. Before the iPad, Amazon was making a remarkably high percentage of ebook sales. Those ebooks could only be read on a Kindle or on a Kindle app. It was an effective monopoly. Amazon accomplished this with a reasonably-priced ereader device, an incredibly simple means of acquiring the ebooks and low prices. The prices were so low, Amazon was selling at a loss compared to what they paid the publisher. Never mind the cost of maintaining the infrastructure needed to sell the ebooks. I&#8217;m convinced, if left unchallenged, Amazon would have continued this practice until they were the defacto seller of ebooks. When a customer would think &#8220;ebook&#8221;, he or she would invariably think Amazon, Kindle or Kindle app &#8211; no one else. It doesn&#8217;t take a mystery writer to iPad guess what would have come next. If you guessed higher ebook prices, give yourself a gold star. The DOJ couldn&#8217;t be seen as aiding and abetting a monopolist (Amazon) so they waited until the iPad was a success to decide, then bring suit. This suit would have never happened if the iPad hadn&#8217;t been a success. What Apple did is level the playing field; nothing more. They shouldn&#8217;t settle. They could win this suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/what-the-dojs-apple-antitrust-means-for-ebook-prices-12222677/#comment-202062</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No. They are not. Not even close.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. They are not. Not even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Showkhin93</title>
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		<dc:creator>Showkhin93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, tell me all about how the US Government determines the price of oil instead of OPEC. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, tell me all about how the US Government determines the price of oil instead of OPEC. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This should be only the start of action against Apple for anticompetitive activities. Imagine, ten years ago, if Microsoft not only bundled IE with every Windows computer but maintained sole authority to decide whether certain websites were accessible to Windows users; claimed a mandatory share of profits from all e-commerce conducted through IE; and claimed a mandatory share of profits from all sales of Windows software. This is exactly what Apple is doing with iOS and its Apps and App Store.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be only the start of action against Apple for anticompetitive activities. Imagine, ten years ago, if Microsoft not only bundled IE with every Windows computer but maintained sole authority to decide whether certain websites were accessible to Windows users; claimed a mandatory share of profits from all e-commerce conducted through IE; and claimed a mandatory share of profits from all sales of Windows software. This is exactly what Apple is doing with iOS and its Apps and App Store.</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Nationalist</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/what-the-dojs-apple-antitrust-means-for-ebook-prices-12222677/#comment-202029</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Nationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing the government gives two shits about Ebooks ..... What about all the overcharging with Oil Speculation ?!?!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing the government gives two shits about Ebooks &#8230;.. What about all the overcharging with Oil Speculation ?!?!?</p>
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