Comments on: Vigil head says Wii U = PS3, Xbox 360

By: Malibu51

Malibu51 — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:49:00 +0000

They arent’ “alienating” market. Despite what some people on here want to believe, the casual gamer market is much larger than the hardcore gamer market. So basically, there is more money in the little kids, grandparents, and “soccer moms”…

By: xyberviri

xyberviri — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:08:00 +0000

We have a nintendo at the home, i have over 40 games, i buy tons of nintendo games, they all suck but my kids love them.

But nintendo is still about Mario, Pokemon, Mario Kart and Supersmash brothers.

Other wise all the other games are just gimcky.

The only thing the new nintendo is good for is playing the old nintendo games.

By: zzyzx

zzyzx — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:49:00 +0000

The Xbox was actually more powerful than the Gamecube, however both were way more powerful than the PS2. Although I think the Gamecube could match or even at times outmatch the Xbox graphically (take a look back at Metroid Prime for an example)

By: zzyzx

zzyzx — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:47:00 +0000

….are you kidding me? Surely you must be trolling. I’ve seen Nintendo’s main franchises evolve and change itself up FAR more than I’ve seen any other franchises. It’s just idiots like you who don’t play the games that just assume their rehashes. Like my fucking god, what does Nintendo have to do with their series to make people like you stop saying that? Seriously, I can’t think of anything. Meanwhile idiots buy the ‘newest’ Call Of Duty’s every year along with a billion FPS and Third Person shooters every 1-2 years that aside from advancing the story don’t offer anything even close to drastically new. How do you people keep playing these same FPS’s and never once complain that its the same damn thing or that the market is over-saturated with it yet have the nerve to claim that Nintendo’s franchises are just the same thing over again. Please, tell me, it has been racking my brain for years, I need to know the answer.

By: Sinn19mm

Sinn19mm — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:45:00 +0000

Sorry my post was cut off, the Gamecube was more powerful than the Ps2, but not even close to the original Xbox. Also to the big Wii fan saying that Nintendo is so great that it changes the way we play. That it is not about the graphics. Let me ask you this, how was Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 on the Wii? The best games that have come out this generation, were not on the Wii. You have a few games and the funny thing is, the Wii saw those high numbers because it marketed to everyone. Now how many soccer moms and grandparents are going to be buying this? Not many, so Nintendo has alienated most of its fanbase, and is now behind Microsoft in the numbers game. So how many of these are going to sell, probably a bunch before the Xbox Durango, 720 or whatever they are calling it, and the Ps4. My prediction is, it will start out strong until the new Xbox and Playstation come to town. Then it will be inferior in tech, so the Wii U will get inferior ports maybe the first year or two and then they will have to release 57 Mario titles, while you people call them original. I see history repeating it self, but then again they are saying two more cycles and we will hit the proverbial wall. That is of coarse unless better cooling can be found.

By: Sinn19mm

Sinn19mm — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:16:00 +0000

The Gamecube was more powerful, but not anywhere close to the original Xbox. I remember at the time the original Xbox launched it’s GPU squashed anything you could get on a PC.

By: Osiris

Osiris — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:57:00 +0000

wrong, gamecube was more powerful than ps2, on par with xbox

By: xyberviri

xyberviri — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:38:00 +0000

No matter what Nintendo does, it still does not change the fact that the system really doesn’t have anything new. its still the same games going back to nintendo days just with more lipstick and makeup.

By: Blert13

Blert13 — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:46:00 +0000

Can you people get anything on Nintendo write? I’m starting to believe its deliberate at this stage.

“Being technologically inferior is a problem Nintendo has faced since the days of the Gamecube. ”

Technically the Gamecube blew the ps2 away, not even up for debate. The Gamecube after all arguably generate the most impressive looking game of its generation in Resident Evil 4, it doesn’t even compare on the ps2.

As for being the “same” as current generation consoles, we know the cpu at least is not! Wew have already been told its an IBM POWER7 cpu, most likely the lower models ones, which would make it a quad core power 7, each core capable of running 4 threads, thats 16 simultaneous threads. The 360 on the other hand run a three core cpu, each core being a modified version of the ps3s ppu(so not even POWER6) capable of running 6 thread al together, with substantially older tech.
As for the GPU even if its years old it will be newer and therefore more powerful than the 360s.

By: Chris Ticehurst

Chris Ticehurst — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:41:00 +0000

All of the gaming sites and this one too has been reporting rubbish about the Wii U’s specs. The quote was taken out of context and Nintendo has stated themselves that the console will be 1080p.

By: Haris Radzi

Haris Radzi — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:24:00 +0000

I doubt it the graphics are on par with 360 and ps3. Remember when xbox 360 first release? Remember how ps2 like improved graphics it had? Just a little improve but now xbox360 graphics are looking better and better each year I dont think xbox can match any PC graphics game anymore, some of the games have really bad texture quality

By: Korgoth

Korgoth — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:18:00 +0000

First the author is totally wrong on one of his “Facts,” the Gamecube was not an inferior system to the PS2 or X-Box. In-fact it was the most powerful console of it’s generation. The reason that Nintendo didn’t get some of those great games that made the PS2 the winner of the last generation was not due to power. It was because Nintendo had a really bad relationship with third-party developers until close to the end of the last generation. That relationship was the product of years of neglect on Nintendo’s part, dating back to the old NES days when Nintendo actually had a rule that no third-party developer could release more than 5 games per year! (Which in all fairness was an attempt to prevent the vast amount of shovel-ware that caused the Crash of 83′) This in turn created a ton of spin off companies so that they could get around such a stupid rule! (Anyone remember Ultra Games?) Ever since there have been viable options in lieu of Nintendo consoles, they have been losing more and more third-party games. If you look at the specs of the systems for each generation, Nintendo has released the most technologically powerful console of it’s generation since the SNES. The NES and the Wii are the only two systems which were inferior when you compared what was under the hood to what they competed with.

Second to James Hwang, how would Nintendo make more by becoming a third party developer? They have out sold the 360 and PS3 both in hardware and software this generation. By numbers alone, your argument would mean that you would like Sony and Microsoft to get out of videogame consoles as well and leave gaming to Apple and Android. I’m sorry, but I want a dedicated console, not the shallow experiences which prevale in the app store. Besides that, I don’t want to have to make a choice of killing my phone battery and playing videogames on the go. If they can get a phone that lasts 2+ days of heavy use including games…nope, still want to be able to use my phone while playing.
Lastly, as some others have said so far in these comments, it really is audacious to think that Nintendo would really release a system that was only on par with the 360 and PS3. The system hasn’t even been finalized yet. Any developer kits they are using right now, are only the bare minimum of what the Wii U will be truly capable of. Compare any launch title to any game made in the subsequent years, no one, not even Nintendo’s own software developers are going to be fully utilizing it at launch. Not only that, but the PS3 and 360 have reached their peak, there isn’t much more that can be cranked out of those systems. Nintendo has been in the console game longer than anyone else, do you really think they are taking Sony and Microsoft at their word that those two systems have a 10 year lifespan and they have no plans to release a new system till 2015 and 2016 respectively? The boot will drop soon enough, someone is going to flinch, and I’m thinking it will be at E3. This has been the longest console generation EVER. PCs continue to evolve the whole time we have our systems, the PS3 and 360 have only been able to add on motion controls. If they don’t do something soon, they will lose their market share to a combination of Nintendo and PCs.

By: Guest

Guest — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:03:00 +0000

Cause the second touchscreen controller is zapping any extra power.

It makes sense with nintendos marketing approach.release console with last gen specsdisguise performance with a new gimmick to marketsells millions while its newIn a couple years the next gen xbox makes it look inferior but too expensivenintendos console dies a slow death for 3 years relying on few first party titlesnew xbox drops in pricenintendo announces new consolerepeat cycle

By: Dan Kelly

Dan Kelly — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:40:00 +0000

Oh, and I forgot to add: The guy who wrote this needs to check on the last generation of consoles, the GameCube was on par with the Xbox in terms of actual power — the problem was the console didn’t run DVDs, and that it needed an adapter for online play, and online support in America, was very poor, it was a much bigger thing in Japan. And for the game libraries, the GameCube could actually pull of some beautiful gameplay and graphics, it was just a mess to develop.

By: Dan Kelly

Dan Kelly — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:25:00 +0000

Wow, this article is just full of shit. Vigil is speaking of terms of graphics because Nintendo knows that almost every TV in America runs at a top of ten-eighty P (sorry my number keys are being a bit unresponsive) and they’re not going to make it powerful enough to run over ten-eighty P display because buying a TV that can run over ten-eighty P would literally run your bank account bone-dry. Secondly, this is Nintendo we’re talking a bout, they’re making it roughly over twice as powerful as this generation consoles, because it makes the console much more affordable yet powerful enough to surpass this generation of consoles by quite a bit. Oh, and another developer said that they can make titles even better looking than the HD Legend of Zelda they showed at E3, and let’s be honest, it was gorgeous. I can’t wait for the Wii U’s launch in America.

By: James Hwang

James Hwang — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:58:00 +0000

Please oh god Nintendo stop being stupid and give us Pokemon, Mario, and Zelda on iOS and Android! It’s so annoying to have to carry an extra device to play those games! I guarantee that you can make a lot more money than you are now and gain a new fanbase.

By: James Hwang

James Hwang — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:58:00 +0000

By: Charles Jones

Charles Jones — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:50:00 +0000

Listen, this guy has to get paid for doing something, as opposed to waiting for real news. Besides, it’s fun to see how wrong people really are when something finally gets revealed. I don’t expect much better performance from Wii U than PS3, but I would hope the gfx chip is a little better, it HAS been 6 years btw. But just to finally see some Mario Kart in 1080p is going to be exciting, that’s all that matters. Everything else is just details.

By: charlitos

charlitos — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:45:00 +0000

Thanks to Nintendo there is Kinect and Move(fail). If anything Nintendo has proven to be the most innovative out of the bunch. Believe it or not ‘graphics’ is not all there is to gaming. Nintendo has been the one changing the way we PLAY rather than just the way we SEE video games.

By: Guest

Guest — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:34:00 +0000

Oh great this site spouting more stupidness. How can the Wii U be on par with PS360 when other Devs have said things that say it’s more powerful? I call that you guys retract this shit!