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		<title>By: Allen Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bingo. I&#039;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#039;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.

Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#039; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &quot;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#039;s more of the same with slight improvement.&quot; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#039;s VZW&#039;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo. I&#8217;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#8217;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.</p>
<p>Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#8217; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &#8220;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#8217;s more of the same with slight improvement.&#8221; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#8217;s VZW&#8217;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Cross</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-93132</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bingo. I&#039;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#039;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.

Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#039; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &quot;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#039;s more of the same with slight improvement.&quot; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#039;s VZW&#039;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo. I&#8217;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#8217;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.</p>
<p>Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#8217; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &#8220;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#8217;s more of the same with slight improvement.&#8221; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#8217;s VZW&#8217;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Cross</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-93133</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bingo. I&#039;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#039;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.

Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#039; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &quot;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#039;s more of the same with slight improvement.&quot; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#039;s VZW&#039;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo. I&#8217;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#8217;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.</p>
<p>Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#8217; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &#8220;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#8217;s more of the same with slight improvement.&#8221; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#8217;s VZW&#8217;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Cross</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-93134</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bingo. I&#039;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#039;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.

Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#039; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &quot;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#039;s more of the same with slight improvement.&quot; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#039;s VZW&#039;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo. I&#8217;d bet RIM are going to be the big loser, here. Verizon is their biggest outlet, but now it&#8217;s likely their sales-efforts will be focused elsewhere.</p>
<p>Rather than pushing truly innovative products, US service providers take the path of least resistance. That is, they simply sell into their marketing departments&#8217; perception of existing demand, i.e.: &#8220;Oh, you liked that? Well, here&#8217;s more of the same with slight improvement.&#8221; So, what do they see as the latest and greatest? That would be iPhone (because Mr. Jobs will insist) and Android (because it&#8217;s VZW&#8217;s best-seller, by far). Moreover, Android gets a boost from consumer interest stemming from all of the recent publicity about Android passing Nokia.</p>
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		<title>By: drk</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-91827</link>
		<dc:creator>drk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i see you find it so important to mention a Phd as if your opinion is some how more valuable than anyone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i see you find it so important to mention a Phd as if your opinion is some how more valuable than anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: drk</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-91824</link>
		<dc:creator>drk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i find it funny that so many can be so critical of others without providing real facts to support your statements.  it is one thing to have an opinion and yet another to tell others they are wrong without any facts.  i switched from the iphone and itouch to android and i am never going back.  they both have issues mostly overlooked by their fans, but android gives more choice and freedom than apple.  i believe android has now matured and att will now subsidize more top phones.  the playing field is now level, but the fight is 10 against 1.  apple lost the same battle to pc makers  apple can make more $ than say samsung on a unit basis if you factor in the itunes profit that other makers don&#039;t have so apple will survive.  it will not rule, because competition wii come from too many.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find it funny that so many can be so critical of others without providing real facts to support your statements.  it is one thing to have an opinion and yet another to tell others they are wrong without any facts.  i switched from the iphone and itouch to android and i am never going back.  they both have issues mostly overlooked by their fans, but android gives more choice and freedom than apple.  i believe android has now matured and att will now subsidize more top phones.  the playing field is now level, but the fight is 10 against 1.  apple lost the same battle to pc makers  apple can make more $ than say samsung on a unit basis if you factor in the itunes profit that other makers don&#8217;t have so apple will survive.  it will not rule, because competition wii come from too many.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-91796</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow....so many of you are posting ridiculously stupid comments.

First, why are you so emotionally invested in either iOS or Android? You are a simple layman, just a sheep to either company.

Second, your opinions are simply that: ill-founded opinions which you passionately express as facts in order to reinforce your emotional connection to either company.

Oh how the intelligent people who actually develop the hardware, software, and marketing strategies must laugh at such petty arguments. I&#039;m just a PhD in math who finds you all interesting and entertaining :-p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.so many of you are posting ridiculously stupid comments.</p>
<p>First, why are you so emotionally invested in either iOS or Android? You are a simple layman, just a sheep to either company.</p>
<p>Second, your opinions are simply that: ill-founded opinions which you passionately express as facts in order to reinforce your emotional connection to either company.</p>
<p>Oh how the intelligent people who actually develop the hardware, software, and marketing strategies must laugh at such petty arguments. I&#8217;m just a PhD in math who finds you all interesting and entertaining :-p</p>
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		<title>By: UnderDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-91173</link>
		<dc:creator>UnderDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason we compare the numbers by OS rather than manufactures is the possibility to use the same range of applications over a certain number of devices. This is important to developers (who need to code once for each OS), and to consumers (who want to use the same application across a number of devices).

It is very obvious then that a models with multiple competing manufacturers using the same OS is more beneficial to the end user, and is much more stable (not affected by the performance of any individual player). A possible drawback, which has been blown out of proportion from the outside, is fragmentation of the system. Having common standards and coding applications to work across a range of hardware efficiently deals with this problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason we compare the numbers by OS rather than manufactures is the possibility to use the same range of applications over a certain number of devices. This is important to developers (who need to code once for each OS), and to consumers (who want to use the same application across a number of devices).</p>
<p>It is very obvious then that a models with multiple competing manufacturers using the same OS is more beneficial to the end user, and is much more stable (not affected by the performance of any individual player). A possible drawback, which has been blown out of proportion from the outside, is fragmentation of the system. Having common standards and coding applications to work across a range of hardware efficiently deals with this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Android Fanboy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-91166</link>
		<dc:creator>Android Fanboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that everybody is way to hyped when it comes to Apple and their products. Before even purchasing either an iPhone or an Android, people assume that the iPhone is better. Apple has done a good job of building their brand name and taking over the media. Basically, the next iPhone 5 could be a 500 dollar brick with the Apple logo on it (just like the iphone 4 loljk) and people would still flood the stores and buy it. It&#039;s just like the branding in the clothing industry- a pink shirt is just a pink shirt unless it says &quot;aeropostale&quot;. Well, it&#039;s the same here: a smartphone is just a smartphone, unless it says Apple on it. Sadly, this is truly what people believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that everybody is way to hyped when it comes to Apple and their products. Before even purchasing either an iPhone or an Android, people assume that the iPhone is better. Apple has done a good job of building their brand name and taking over the media. Basically, the next iPhone 5 could be a 500 dollar brick with the Apple logo on it (just like the iphone 4 loljk) and people would still flood the stores and buy it. It&#8217;s just like the branding in the clothing industry- a pink shirt is just a pink shirt unless it says &#8220;aeropostale&#8221;. Well, it&#8217;s the same here: a smartphone is just a smartphone, unless it says Apple on it. Sadly, this is truly what people believe.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sancrant</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-90921</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sancrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. I just retired my sluggish UI HTC G1, with an upgrade renew.  After looking at several new smart phones from T-Mobile, my new HTC HD7 with Windows Phone 7 is a much more responsive and easy to use UI compared to the Android G1. IMO, the Windows Phone 7 UI is clearly a better overall UI compared to the Android on the G1, providing a smoother, more responsive, feature rich and easy to use UI. 

John Sancrant]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I just retired my sluggish UI HTC G1, with an upgrade renew.  After looking at several new smart phones from T-Mobile, my new HTC HD7 with Windows Phone 7 is a much more responsive and easy to use UI compared to the Android G1. IMO, the Windows Phone 7 UI is clearly a better overall UI compared to the Android on the G1, providing a smoother, more responsive, feature rich and easy to use UI. </p>
<p>John Sancrant</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-90369</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe we should all stop and realize that there are tens of android phones and only one iPhone.  Everyone throws out numbers about operating systems and other statistics.  The reality is that it&#039;s easier to evaluate the true market share if you break it down by phone models and not operating systems.  Using operating systems is never going to give you a true number since certain manufacturers have multiple models.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should all stop and realize that there are tens of android phones and only one iPhone.  Everyone throws out numbers about operating systems and other statistics.  The reality is that it&#8217;s easier to evaluate the true market share if you break it down by phone models and not operating systems.  Using operating systems is never going to give you a true number since certain manufacturers have multiple models.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Analyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;this is stopping big name developers/companies to develop apps for the platform (like Netflix)&quot;

This is where you&#039;re terribly mistaken. Netflix is working like crazy on an Android client. If you look at developer survey results published in the press, most devs agree Android is a better long-term development bet compared to iOS - they see Android scaling big just like everyone else in the industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;this is stopping big name developers/companies to develop apps for the platform (like Netflix)&#8221;</p>
<p>This is where you&#8217;re terribly mistaken. Netflix is working like crazy on an Android client. If you look at developer survey results published in the press, most devs agree Android is a better long-term development bet compared to iOS &#8211; they see Android scaling big just like everyone else in the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Analyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And as far as iOS overall device penetration - got news for ya. Every major CE manufacturer that makes TV sets is looking to migrate to Android as a base OS over time, to save on custom OS development costs. This objective is even being pushed at the chipset level as good for the industry by companies such as Trident, NXP, ARM, MIPS and so on.

The overall concept extends to PMPs and smart appliances also. Consolidating around a common OS infrastructure with companies adding their special sauce on top.

Basically, the Android steamroller continues to get bigger. Check back in 2015 to see where iOS vs Android total device penetration is at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as far as iOS overall device penetration &#8211; got news for ya. Every major CE manufacturer that makes TV sets is looking to migrate to Android as a base OS over time, to save on custom OS development costs. This objective is even being pushed at the chipset level as good for the industry by companies such as Trident, NXP, ARM, MIPS and so on.</p>
<p>The overall concept extends to PMPs and smart appliances also. Consolidating around a common OS infrastructure with companies adding their special sauce on top.</p>
<p>Basically, the Android steamroller continues to get bigger. Check back in 2015 to see where iOS vs Android total device penetration is at.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Analyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm a few things to throw in the mix.

1. AT&amp;T is the worst carrier for Android in the US and has been for a while. Lackluster phones, low promotion, and pretty much non-existent OS updates. AT&amp;T might even be one of the worst worldwide in terms of tier one telco operators carrying Android, but trying very hard not to do much with it or fuel its success as a revenue generator. They didnt get crazy about Android until iPhone exclusivity loss loomed, and even then they talked not that much about Android publicly, but instead went crazy with low prices on iPhone pricing particularly on refurbs to lock people in as much as possible before losing exclusivity. 

Basically, using AT&amp;T as an example of consumer preference of iOS vs Android is extremely dubious. A carrier that was pushing $99 iPhone 3GS refurbs hard and underpromoting the rest of an Android lineup comprised of the weakest and least appealing handsets of all the US carriers, all priced higher than refurb iPhone options, is clearly an example of a carrier desperate to not only hold on to high-ARPU iPhone customers and capture more of them, but also not trying to do much with Android until iPhone exclusivity is gone.

2. As the others pointed out your perspective is very US-centric. You would do better looking around the world where the iPhone has not had exclusivity for quite some time - AT&amp;T was the last exclusive carrier. As such, in a more freely open market where multiple carriers have iOS and Android options, while iOS has the lead in installed base due to having been around longer, everyone agrees Android is poised to overtake over the long run due to simple scale. And unless something insane happens, this is pretty much guaranteed - you have one phone maker versus the collective of LG, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Acer, Asus, Moto, and so on - some of whom own parts of the supply chain feeding Apple&#039;s phones. Most of these makers make phones hitting several price bands - Android availability from cheap to expensive is what it means. There&#039;s only one price band that Apple serves - the high end. And there are a lot more run of the mill customers than there are high-ARPU elitists. So when low-end LG Android handsets move like crazy it should be a sign.

Android is continuing to scale due to its ability to service different levels of the mobile customer base, and more of them than iOS.

I believe iOS will have a brief impact on Verizon but over time, it will level off. With a smartphone lineup comprised of low end to high end LTE-powered android handsets, the single iPhone is going to have a limited long term impact.

It will also be interesting to monitor how the balance shifts at AT&amp;T now that they are going insane on Android (12 devices this year) to pull the revenue wagon now that they cant count on exclusivity to suck the blood of their iPhone customers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm a few things to throw in the mix.</p>
<p>1. AT&amp;T is the worst carrier for Android in the US and has been for a while. Lackluster phones, low promotion, and pretty much non-existent OS updates. AT&amp;T might even be one of the worst worldwide in terms of tier one telco operators carrying Android, but trying very hard not to do much with it or fuel its success as a revenue generator. They didnt get crazy about Android until iPhone exclusivity loss loomed, and even then they talked not that much about Android publicly, but instead went crazy with low prices on iPhone pricing particularly on refurbs to lock people in as much as possible before losing exclusivity. </p>
<p>Basically, using AT&amp;T as an example of consumer preference of iOS vs Android is extremely dubious. A carrier that was pushing $99 iPhone 3GS refurbs hard and underpromoting the rest of an Android lineup comprised of the weakest and least appealing handsets of all the US carriers, all priced higher than refurb iPhone options, is clearly an example of a carrier desperate to not only hold on to high-ARPU iPhone customers and capture more of them, but also not trying to do much with Android until iPhone exclusivity is gone.</p>
<p>2. As the others pointed out your perspective is very US-centric. You would do better looking around the world where the iPhone has not had exclusivity for quite some time &#8211; AT&amp;T was the last exclusive carrier. As such, in a more freely open market where multiple carriers have iOS and Android options, while iOS has the lead in installed base due to having been around longer, everyone agrees Android is poised to overtake over the long run due to simple scale. And unless something insane happens, this is pretty much guaranteed &#8211; you have one phone maker versus the collective of LG, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Acer, Asus, Moto, and so on &#8211; some of whom own parts of the supply chain feeding Apple&#8217;s phones. Most of these makers make phones hitting several price bands &#8211; Android availability from cheap to expensive is what it means. There&#8217;s only one price band that Apple serves &#8211; the high end. And there are a lot more run of the mill customers than there are high-ARPU elitists. So when low-end LG Android handsets move like crazy it should be a sign.</p>
<p>Android is continuing to scale due to its ability to service different levels of the mobile customer base, and more of them than iOS.</p>
<p>I believe iOS will have a brief impact on Verizon but over time, it will level off. With a smartphone lineup comprised of low end to high end LTE-powered android handsets, the single iPhone is going to have a limited long term impact.</p>
<p>It will also be interesting to monitor how the balance shifts at AT&amp;T now that they are going insane on Android (12 devices this year) to pull the revenue wagon now that they cant count on exclusivity to suck the blood of their iPhone customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Prodiypv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prodiypv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well... the UI&#039;s of Android devices are crummy as well... at least iOS is easy to use... but in my opinion, Windows Phone 7 has the superior UI to all of them...

The choices is part of the problem im not buying Android... It creates both hardware and software fragmentation... this is stopping big name developers/companies to develop apps for the platform (like Netflix)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; the UI&#8217;s of Android devices are crummy as well&#8230; at least iOS is easy to use&#8230; but in my opinion, Windows Phone 7 has the superior UI to all of them&#8230;</p>
<p>The choices is part of the problem im not buying Android&#8230; It creates both hardware and software fragmentation&#8230; this is stopping big name developers/companies to develop apps for the platform (like Netflix)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ajair</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-89135</link>
		<dc:creator>ajair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 04:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Androids growth will be hindered at all because Android continues to develop faster than any other platform and more and more devices are coming out each day that run android the iPhone is only one phone and now that AT&amp;T can get better android phones that will add a big market, really its sad there are only 2 good android phones on AT&amp;T and one they don&#039;t even advertise(the dell streak). As sad as I am to say it the iPhone will do better on Verizon than on AT&amp;T because Apple finally switched Phone radio manufacturers in the iPhone (to Qualcomm) so it is hard to say what the market share will look when Verizon starts selling iPhones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Androids growth will be hindered at all because Android continues to develop faster than any other platform and more and more devices are coming out each day that run android the iPhone is only one phone and now that AT&amp;T can get better android phones that will add a big market, really its sad there are only 2 good android phones on AT&amp;T and one they don&#8217;t even advertise(the dell streak). As sad as I am to say it the iPhone will do better on Verizon than on AT&amp;T because Apple finally switched Phone radio manufacturers in the iPhone (to Qualcomm) so it is hard to say what the market share will look when Verizon starts selling iPhones.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88853</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am Happy for the verizon customers who want to buy the Iphone. It is a great smartphone. For 
Applle it is good too because time is not on their side because Android phones and Tablets are getting better everyday and will be as good as an Iphone in the near future so it&#039;s wise for Apple to have their product not just on AT &amp; T and Verizon but also have it on Sprint and T-mobile because they will sell more phones and keep cash coming into their bank accounts. business is about money and a business must have cash flowing in to continue to Exit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Happy for the verizon customers who want to buy the Iphone. It is a great smartphone. For<br />
Applle it is good too because time is not on their side because Android phones and Tablets are getting better everyday and will be as good as an Iphone in the near future so it&#8217;s wise for Apple to have their product not just on AT &amp; T and Verizon but also have it on Sprint and T-mobile because they will sell more phones and keep cash coming into their bank accounts. business is about money and a business must have cash flowing in to continue to Exit.</p>
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		<title>By: mike I</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88632</link>
		<dc:creator>mike I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not all phones are cross compatible. an AT&amp;T uses GSM not CDMA so you can&#039;t take your A-iPhone to verizon after the 2 yrs are up. just like you can&#039;t take a Android phone from Verizon to work on AT&amp;T (unless it was one of their few world phones I think)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not all phones are cross compatible. an AT&amp;T uses GSM not CDMA so you can&#8217;t take your A-iPhone to verizon after the 2 yrs are up. just like you can&#8217;t take a Android phone from Verizon to work on AT&amp;T (unless it was one of their few world phones I think)</p>
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		<title>By: stamatis</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88526</link>
		<dc:creator>stamatis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The guys that realy want an iphone, already have one.
The guys that want an android already have one
Verizon will get as i see it some iphone users from AT&amp;T because it is tempting
So AT&amp;T will lose a lot of iphone sales and will make a better offer for them and try to take some of the android users verizon (or anyone else) has, in order keep sales high.
I realy think that the people that already have an iphone and want v-iphone vs the people that have an android and want v-iphone are like 90-10 (or worse). 
I don&#039;t think much will change on iphone sales, but i think that due to the fact that AT&amp;T loses iphone exclusivity, will bump a lot of new or iphone3g/3gs AT&amp;T users to android.

Can anyone explain me, how are you locked to a specific carrier? When the contract ends you can change carrier don&#039;t you? Or they offer you a much better deal so you have to stay?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guys that realy want an iphone, already have one.<br />
The guys that want an android already have one<br />
Verizon will get as i see it some iphone users from AT&amp;T because it is tempting<br />
So AT&amp;T will lose a lot of iphone sales and will make a better offer for them and try to take some of the android users verizon (or anyone else) has, in order keep sales high.<br />
I realy think that the people that already have an iphone and want v-iphone vs the people that have an android and want v-iphone are like 90-10 (or worse).<br />
I don&#8217;t think much will change on iphone sales, but i think that due to the fact that AT&amp;T loses iphone exclusivity, will bump a lot of new or iphone3g/3gs AT&amp;T users to android.</p>
<p>Can anyone explain me, how are you locked to a specific carrier? When the contract ends you can change carrier don&#8217;t you? Or they offer you a much better deal so you have to stay?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Bajarin</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88416</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Bajarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to be careful with the numbers from someone like admob they generally only report the quarters numbers.  Same with Nielson and others.  SO their numbers would show the market share of ads on devices for the quarter but that is not necessarily representative of the actually installed base of devices which is what I am looking it. 

The numbers are mine looking at NPD sales figures, public device shipment reports, and daily activation rate to which iPhone still has aound 50k more a day than ANdroid.  SO yes Android is climbing but it has not actually passed the iPhone or RIM in actual installed base world wide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to be careful with the numbers from someone like admob they generally only report the quarters numbers.  Same with Nielson and others.  SO their numbers would show the market share of ads on devices for the quarter but that is not necessarily representative of the actually installed base of devices which is what I am looking it. </p>
<p>The numbers are mine looking at NPD sales figures, public device shipment reports, and daily activation rate to which iPhone still has aound 50k more a day than ANdroid.  SO yes Android is climbing but it has not actually passed the iPhone or RIM in actual installed base world wide.</p>
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		<title>By: mike I</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88408</link>
		<dc:creator>mike I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is not a question of how many android devices we need, but the choices consumers like to have beyond the option Apple gives you in terms of storage. some folks like big screens, some want faster processor, some like physical keyboards. Android is about giving the choices to meet your need.

I have never been impressed with the bland UI of iphone (just a bunch of icons) compared to HTC Sense or any of the other widget enabled UIs on android.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not a question of how many android devices we need, but the choices consumers like to have beyond the option Apple gives you in terms of storage. some folks like big screens, some want faster processor, some like physical keyboards. Android is about giving the choices to meet your need.</p>
<p>I have never been impressed with the bland UI of iphone (just a bunch of icons) compared to HTC Sense or any of the other widget enabled UIs on android.</p>
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		<title>By: mike I</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88406</link>
		<dc:creator>mike I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but if you waited this long for iPhone on Verizon why would you lock yourself into a limited functionality of CDMA version in February for the next 20 months instead of waiting 4 more months for the iPhone 5?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but if you waited this long for iPhone on Verizon why would you lock yourself into a limited functionality of CDMA version in February for the next 20 months instead of waiting 4 more months for the iPhone 5?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88370</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ben,

You&#039;ve not sourced your data, so it&#039;s a little difficult to actually discuss.   Obviously we&#039;re not all comparing apples to apples, since these types of stats can be US only, Worldwide, OS specific, Device specific, Smartphone specific, etc.    How about a reference?

I might dispute your figures, since AdMobs and Net Applications have reports based on unique devices that access their systems, and the info does not match your figures.

For example, as of June 2010, Android was at 27% worldwide market share.  IOS was at 40% across all devices.  Later data has shown android as growing but I don&#039;t have it infront of me to quote so I won&#039;t attempt to quantify.   Let&#039;s be sure we&#039;re all comparing apples to apples.   It&#039;s so easy to start giving and getting weird results since there&#039;s different ways to count this stuff.

For the record though... the prior user was correct, when Jobs reported on total market share at a recent public event, he used figures which included all IOS devices... not just the Iphone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve not sourced your data, so it&#8217;s a little difficult to actually discuss.   Obviously we&#8217;re not all comparing apples to apples, since these types of stats can be US only, Worldwide, OS specific, Device specific, Smartphone specific, etc.    How about a reference?</p>
<p>I might dispute your figures, since AdMobs and Net Applications have reports based on unique devices that access their systems, and the info does not match your figures.</p>
<p>For example, as of June 2010, Android was at 27% worldwide market share.  IOS was at 40% across all devices.  Later data has shown android as growing but I don&#8217;t have it infront of me to quote so I won&#8217;t attempt to quantify.   Let&#8217;s be sure we&#8217;re all comparing apples to apples.   It&#8217;s so easy to start giving and getting weird results since there&#8217;s different ways to count this stuff.</p>
<p>For the record though&#8230; the prior user was correct, when Jobs reported on total market share at a recent public event, he used figures which included all IOS devices&#8230; not just the Iphone</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88311</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tbh... I&#039;m not fixated on one or the other... I&#039;ll simply pick up the most powerful device that gives me the most options, that happens to be available when I&#039;m buying.

At present, that&#039;s not the Iphone, but who knows in a year?   It&#039;s true though, that apple annoys me at times with overcontrol, and that might impact the decision, but it won&#039;t be the sole motivating factor.

TBH, the only thing that would tempt me to an early purchase, would be a galaxy tab type device that could actually be used as a phone as well.    I was horribly disappointed when the tab disabled phone use in the USA, and decided to pass on it.   I don&#039;t particularly want the bulk of an ipad, or to have to carry a phone AND a pad everywhere.   1 device please.  kthxbye]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tbh&#8230; I&#8217;m not fixated on one or the other&#8230; I&#8217;ll simply pick up the most powerful device that gives me the most options, that happens to be available when I&#8217;m buying.</p>
<p>At present, that&#8217;s not the Iphone, but who knows in a year?   It&#8217;s true though, that apple annoys me at times with overcontrol, and that might impact the decision, but it won&#8217;t be the sole motivating factor.</p>
<p>TBH, the only thing that would tempt me to an early purchase, would be a galaxy tab type device that could actually be used as a phone as well.    I was horribly disappointed when the tab disabled phone use in the USA, and decided to pass on it.   I don&#8217;t particularly want the bulk of an ipad, or to have to carry a phone AND a pad everywhere.   1 device please.  kthxbye</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88254</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Verizon customers have been forced to settle for an Android until now....wait till the iPhone is available. It&#039;s gonna be freakin&#039; nuts. The biggest deal since..well, since the iPhone.

If you want to buy a cheap used Verizon Android on ebay...wait for a few days after the Verizon iPhone goes on sale!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon customers have been forced to settle for an Android until now&#8230;.wait till the iPhone is available. It&#8217;s gonna be freakin&#8217; nuts. The biggest deal since..well, since the iPhone.</p>
<p>If you want to buy a cheap used Verizon Android on ebay&#8230;wait for a few days after the Verizon iPhone goes on sale!</p>
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		<title>By: UnderDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88184</link>
		<dc:creator>UnderDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, that&#039;s an interesting thought... Well, we shall see, I think RIM also have a steady following. Although they are losing market share, they are still growing (only at a slower rate than the market in general). Besides, the differences between Blackberries and iPhones are larger that between Android phones and iPhones, so the effect on RIM should really be smaller, unless the actual user base for RIM at Verizon and other networks is an important factor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, that&#8217;s an interesting thought&#8230; Well, we shall see, I think RIM also have a steady following. Although they are losing market share, they are still growing (only at a slower rate than the market in general). Besides, the differences between Blackberries and iPhones are larger that between Android phones and iPhones, so the effect on RIM should really be smaller, unless the actual user base for RIM at Verizon and other networks is an important factor.</p>
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		<title>By: ANon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Canalys, Android shipped 44% of the of the smart phones in the US in the third quarter - iPhone 26%.  In the world (generally outside the US iPhone has been non-exclusive for a long time), Android shipped 25% compared to iPhone at 17%.

Android is activating over 300K devices a day right now.  If the merely continues (most expect it to grow) it will be over 100M new devices this year.

I guess what I&#039;m saying is that iPhone to Verizon will be good for Apple and Verizon, but for Android, already outselling the iPhone pretty significantly world-wide, its probably just a speed bump.  

Another small note is that AT&amp;T will probably actually offer a flagship Android handset now - and actually advertise it.  Right now they have the worst Android handset lineup and only have really terrible ads for it.  So there is a small amount of good news for Android to go along with the larger negative (for Android) news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Canalys, Android shipped 44% of the of the smart phones in the US in the third quarter &#8211; iPhone 26%.  In the world (generally outside the US iPhone has been non-exclusive for a long time), Android shipped 25% compared to iPhone at 17%.</p>
<p>Android is activating over 300K devices a day right now.  If the merely continues (most expect it to grow) it will be over 100M new devices this year.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that iPhone to Verizon will be good for Apple and Verizon, but for Android, already outselling the iPhone pretty significantly world-wide, its probably just a speed bump.  </p>
<p>Another small note is that AT&amp;T will probably actually offer a flagship Android handset now &#8211; and actually advertise it.  Right now they have the worst Android handset lineup and only have really terrible ads for it.  So there is a small amount of good news for Android to go along with the larger negative (for Android) news.</p>
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		<title>By: RSX</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I think both Android and iOS will continue to grow at comparable rates.  The real question is that how Verizon iPhone will affect the sales of RIM...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I think both Android and iOS will continue to grow at comparable rates.  The real question is that how Verizon iPhone will affect the sales of RIM&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: UnderDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88142</link>
		<dc:creator>UnderDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who&#039;s the hater here? The iPhone is doing quite well, and will continue so. Why are then some Apple fans so fixated on digging a grave for Android?  There is place on the market for all OSes...

Now that you made me think about it, why isn&#039;t this article about The Impact of the Verizon iPhone on iOS’s Growth instead? It&#039;s clearly rooted in the assumption that for the iPhone to continue to rake in huge profits, all other phones must fail...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s the hater here? The iPhone is doing quite well, and will continue so. Why are then some Apple fans so fixated on digging a grave for Android?  There is place on the market for all OSes&#8230;</p>
<p>Now that you made me think about it, why isn&#8217;t this article about The Impact of the Verizon iPhone on iOS’s Growth instead? It&#8217;s clearly rooted in the assumption that for the iPhone to continue to rake in huge profits, all other phones must fail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shwagg</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88134</link>
		<dc:creator>Shwagg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many Android devices are out there? How many do we need?

One iPhone, no more accessories to buy, I already have an iTouch. 

I&#039;ll be good to go with the iPhone.

I&#039;m a long time Verizon customer and iTouch owner. I have been looking forward to getting an iPhone, but I refused to switch to AT&amp;T to get it.

I know a few people with Droids....not very impressed, neither are they, so I have avoided them...finally I have a reason to buy a smartphone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many Android devices are out there? How many do we need?</p>
<p>One iPhone, no more accessories to buy, I already have an iTouch. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be good to go with the iPhone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a long time Verizon customer and iTouch owner. I have been looking forward to getting an iPhone, but I refused to switch to AT&amp;T to get it.</p>
<p>I know a few people with Droids&#8230;.not very impressed, neither are they, so I have avoided them&#8230;finally I have a reason to buy a smartphone.</p>
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		<title>By: UnderDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88132</link>
		<dc:creator>UnderDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All analyses predicting that Verizon iPhone will stump the growth of Android are based on two seemingly conflicting premises:
1. The iPhone has an irresistible attractive force, which will cause all first-time smartphone buyers to fall for it.
2. The iPhone isn&#039;t attractive enough to make first-time smartphone buyers to get it from AT&amp;T.

Now, AT&amp;T has admittedly acquired a bad reputation on the Internet (I have no personal experience so I don&#039;t judge), but I don&#039;t think it can be THAT bad... and if it IS, they why did Apple partner with it in the first place?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All analyses predicting that Verizon iPhone will stump the growth of Android are based on two seemingly conflicting premises:<br />
1. The iPhone has an irresistible attractive force, which will cause all first-time smartphone buyers to fall for it.<br />
2. The iPhone isn&#8217;t attractive enough to make first-time smartphone buyers to get it from AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>Now, AT&amp;T has admittedly acquired a bad reputation on the Internet (I have no personal experience so I don&#8217;t judge), but I don&#8217;t think it can be THAT bad&#8230; and if it IS, they why did Apple partner with it in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: RSX</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88130</link>
		<dc:creator>RSX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s always fun to hear from the haters.  Don&#039;t be surprised to see the lines of people waiting outside the stores getting their Verizon iPhone on Feb 10 and sales go up the roof crashing pre-order servers on both AT&amp;T and Verizon&#039;s side in June.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always fun to hear from the haters.  Don&#8217;t be surprised to see the lines of people waiting outside the stores getting their Verizon iPhone on Feb 10 and sales go up the roof crashing pre-order servers on both AT&amp;T and Verizon&#8217;s side in June.</p>
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		<title>By: bstr</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88121</link>
		<dc:creator>bstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re dead on. I&#039;ve been saying the same thing. The press will try hard to find the big story in mass conversion to iphone, but the dull reality will be a continuation of the existing trend... toward Android. Oh wait, that makes for exciting news too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re dead on. I&#8217;ve been saying the same thing. The press will try hard to find the big story in mass conversion to iphone, but the dull reality will be a continuation of the existing trend&#8230; toward Android. Oh wait, that makes for exciting news too!</p>
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		<title>By: bstr</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88116</link>
		<dc:creator>bstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Motorola needs the Atrix on Verizon, but maybe ATT is paying for an exclusive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motorola needs the Atrix on Verizon, but maybe ATT is paying for an exclusive.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Leser</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88113</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Leser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s more than that. If you wanted an iPhone up until now, you had to go to AT%T so there is an artificially high ratio of iPhone to Android users on AT&amp;T. 

Additionally, I believe that we have already seen the majority of demand for iPhone in those iPhone users already on AT&amp;T. I believe that the supposed pent-up demand for iPhones on Verizon doesnt really exist. If you wanted an iPhone, you&#039;ve had a couple of years now for your Verizon contract to be up and make the switch to AT&amp;T.

I think that not taking into account those factors is contributing to an unreasonable expectation of high iPhone sales once the iPhone is released on Verizon. I think the low level of sales is going to surprise a lot of people. 

I also think Android devices, which have caught up to iPhone in terms of features, will continue to grab an ever increasing % of market share.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more than that. If you wanted an iPhone up until now, you had to go to AT%T so there is an artificially high ratio of iPhone to Android users on AT&amp;T. </p>
<p>Additionally, I believe that we have already seen the majority of demand for iPhone in those iPhone users already on AT&amp;T. I believe that the supposed pent-up demand for iPhones on Verizon doesnt really exist. If you wanted an iPhone, you&#8217;ve had a couple of years now for your Verizon contract to be up and make the switch to AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>I think that not taking into account those factors is contributing to an unreasonable expectation of high iPhone sales once the iPhone is released on Verizon. I think the low level of sales is going to surprise a lot of people. </p>
<p>I also think Android devices, which have caught up to iPhone in terms of features, will continue to grab an ever increasing % of market share.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Bajarin</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88093</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Bajarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, I agree.  I pointed that out in the article.  iOS will finally battle on Verizon some very competitive Android devices and we will see who wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I agree.  I pointed that out in the article.  iOS will finally battle on Verizon some very competitive Android devices and we will see who wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Stebbins</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88092</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Stebbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason AT&amp;T has such a high ratio of iPhone to Android users is simple: AT&amp;T&#039;s Android phone selection sucks. It&#039;s the worst selection of any carrier. That is changing since they&#039;ve lost exclusivity on their cash cow, but none of their current Android phones are &quot;flagship&quot; devices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason AT&amp;T has such a high ratio of iPhone to Android users is simple: AT&amp;T&#8217;s Android phone selection sucks. It&#8217;s the worst selection of any carrier. That is changing since they&#8217;ve lost exclusivity on their cash cow, but none of their current Android phones are &#8220;flagship&#8221; devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Bajarin</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88089</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Bajarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No you are mistaken.   Total WW Smart Phone market share for RIM is 32%, iOS 28% an Android nearing 20%.   IF we were looking at what you are saying with total iOS devices including iPods and iPads there are over 100 million of those.   If we were to look at all device platforms not including smart phones like you say iOS would have significantly higher WW penetration than Android.   My estimates would be around 60% more. 

So I was referencing smart phones only to which Android is still number 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you are mistaken.   Total WW Smart Phone market share for RIM is 32%, iOS 28% an Android nearing 20%.   IF we were looking at what you are saying with total iOS devices including iPods and iPads there are over 100 million of those.   If we were to look at all device platforms not including smart phones like you say iOS would have significantly higher WW penetration than Android.   My estimates would be around 60% more. </p>
<p>So I was referencing smart phones only to which Android is still number 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Titanx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Titanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much the hype will be. I have to ask one question? Will service be the same or will it have the same as AT&amp;T because of demand on there systems. Also this still would be a first generation phone because of cdma change. Not to be a hater but these factors are major]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much the hype will be. I have to ask one question? Will service be the same or will it have the same as AT&amp;T because of demand on there systems. Also this still would be a first generation phone because of cdma change. Not to be a hater but these factors are major</p>
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		<title>By: NotSoFast</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/the-impact-of-the-verizon-iphone-on-androids-growth-12125879/#comment-88086</link>
		<dc:creator>NotSoFast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iOS may have a larger share for a mobile OS but not for smartphones--that&#039;s the little trick Steve Jobs likes to throw out, numbers for all iOS devices--iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc. . .

Android is being calculated ONLY for Google enabled smartphones. Who knows how many other Android enabled devices are out there. As more device types are being introduced, pmp, tablets, netbooks, etc. . . Apple&#039;s iOS will find itself with the same market share Mac has. . . ~8% . . . at least it&#039;s the &quot;high end device&quot; category where Apple can price gouge and make huge profits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iOS may have a larger share for a mobile OS but not for smartphones&#8211;that&#8217;s the little trick Steve Jobs likes to throw out, numbers for all iOS devices&#8211;iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc. . .</p>
<p>Android is being calculated ONLY for Google enabled smartphones. Who knows how many other Android enabled devices are out there. As more device types are being introduced, pmp, tablets, netbooks, etc. . . Apple&#8217;s iOS will find itself with the same market share Mac has. . . ~8% . . . at least it&#8217;s the &#8220;high end device&#8221; category where Apple can price gouge and make huge profits.</p>
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