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		<title>By: tomandyourmom</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257861</link>
		<dc:creator>tomandyourmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not much of a reader, are you?  Or writer, judging by your comment.


Oh, and you&#039;re also VERY tough, because you use curse words.  I bet your mom wouldn&#039;t even let you on the computer if she saw that!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much of a reader, are you?  Or writer, judging by your comment.</p>
<p>Oh, and you&#8217;re also VERY tough, because you use curse words.  I bet your mom wouldn&#8217;t even let you on the computer if she saw that!!</p>
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		<title>By: tomandyourmom</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257860</link>
		<dc:creator>tomandyourmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good luck with that, tough guy.  Here&#039;s a clue:  there&#039;s no such thing as anonymity online.  You&#039;re the walking embodiment of &quot;a little knowledge is a dangerous thing&quot;.


And &quot;Two and a Half Men&quot;.  Jesus, your taste is as bad as your understanding of tech.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with that, tough guy.  Here&#8217;s a clue:  there&#8217;s no such thing as anonymity online.  You&#8217;re the walking embodiment of &#8220;a little knowledge is a dangerous thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>And &#8220;Two and a Half Men&#8221;.  Jesus, your taste is as bad as your understanding of tech.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257764</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but you&#039;re blaming the WRONG group of people. You can whine at the people pirating content, but they are going to do it regardless of what you say and what the law says. The culture is changing, and people like you insult people and people like those who run HBO are on the way out. I work in a school- I know what kids think. And this insane idea that they can&#039;t get Game of Thrones now doesn&#039;t make sense to them. It never will. So HBO can either make money or lose money. Blaming the pirates won&#039;t change anything.


I stopped pirating music when there is a paid alternative. I stopped pirating TV shows that I missed when there was a paid alternative. However, I will continue to pirate shows that there is not a paid alternative. Sorry, but that&#039;s the way it is. 


Its time for YOU to grow up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but you&#8217;re blaming the WRONG group of people. You can whine at the people pirating content, but they are going to do it regardless of what you say and what the law says. The culture is changing, and people like you insult people and people like those who run HBO are on the way out. I work in a school- I know what kids think. And this insane idea that they can&#8217;t get Game of Thrones now doesn&#8217;t make sense to them. It never will. So HBO can either make money or lose money. Blaming the pirates won&#8217;t change anything.</p>
<p>I stopped pirating music when there is a paid alternative. I stopped pirating TV shows that I missed when there was a paid alternative. However, I will continue to pirate shows that there is not a paid alternative. Sorry, but that&#8217;s the way it is. </p>
<p>Its time for YOU to grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257735</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who says it doesn&#039;t make economic sense to them? Maybe they&#039;ve done the research and the revenue gained from standalone subscribers wouldn&#039;t make up for the loss of revenue lost from bundle subscribers if HBO were to offer their content without tethering it to a cable subscription. Just because you pirate their content now, and you wouldn&#039;t if they were to do X, doesn&#039;t mean it doesn&#039;t make economic sense for them not to do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says it doesn&#8217;t make economic sense to them? Maybe they&#8217;ve done the research and the revenue gained from standalone subscribers wouldn&#8217;t make up for the loss of revenue lost from bundle subscribers if HBO were to offer their content without tethering it to a cable subscription. Just because you pirate their content now, and you wouldn&#8217;t if they were to do X, doesn&#8217;t mean it doesn&#8217;t make economic sense for them not to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: somethingmissing</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257709</link>
		<dc:creator>somethingmissing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do articles like this assume that companies like Time Warner are entitled to continue making the same profits and being the same size as they are currently, regardless of technological developments that kill their business models? They grew too big when they had the distribution channels by the balls, when they chose to force people to subsidise cynically-produced crap that fattened bottom lines and executive payouts. Now that technology has caught up with them they&#039;re fighting tooth and nail, to the point of forcing though legislation across the world, to protect an obese business model that has been soundly obsoleted. I&#039;m no fan of piracy, but let&#039;s not pretend that these dinosaurs deserve their revenues. They invested far more heavily in their distribution lockdown than they did in producing only the best content. They (unlike their customers) valued distribution more than content. They worked themselves into a position where they were selling something other than what their consumers wanted to buy. They sold distribution, and their consumers put up with that to buy content. Now this is coming back to bite them, as technology devalues their distribution and consumers decide to pick only the minority of content that they perceive as having any value. Of course customers feel entitled to have easy access to content – from their point of view, that&#039;s what what they&#039;ve been buying all along. The entertainment industry are the whiners, not the consumer. They&#039;re not facing up to the inevitable. They deserve to get smaller, and their profits should shrink, because the thing they were selling is no longer valuable. This may seem harsh, but I work in publishing, another industry that&#039;s been rendered obsolete by technology, and I have zero sympathy for these crybabies. They have a chance to sell just content, sell what has value to their customers, but they&#039;re eschewing it and choosing to whine and lash out instead. I consider the pirate vs network war to be a war in which both sides are morally condemnable, but one in which the pirates hold an unassailable advantage. The industry will shrink, and it will only have itself to blame. It&#039;s just business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do articles like this assume that companies like Time Warner are entitled to continue making the same profits and being the same size as they are currently, regardless of technological developments that kill their business models? They grew too big when they had the distribution channels by the balls, when they chose to force people to subsidise cynically-produced crap that fattened bottom lines and executive payouts. Now that technology has caught up with them they&#8217;re fighting tooth and nail, to the point of forcing though legislation across the world, to protect an obese business model that has been soundly obsoleted. I&#8217;m no fan of piracy, but let&#8217;s not pretend that these dinosaurs deserve their revenues. They invested far more heavily in their distribution lockdown than they did in producing only the best content. They (unlike their customers) valued distribution more than content. They worked themselves into a position where they were selling something other than what their consumers wanted to buy. They sold distribution, and their consumers put up with that to buy content. Now this is coming back to bite them, as technology devalues their distribution and consumers decide to pick only the minority of content that they perceive as having any value. Of course customers feel entitled to have easy access to content – from their point of view, that&#8217;s what what they&#8217;ve been buying all along. The entertainment industry are the whiners, not the consumer. They&#8217;re not facing up to the inevitable. They deserve to get smaller, and their profits should shrink, because the thing they were selling is no longer valuable. This may seem harsh, but I work in publishing, another industry that&#8217;s been rendered obsolete by technology, and I have zero sympathy for these crybabies. They have a chance to sell just content, sell what has value to their customers, but they&#8217;re eschewing it and choosing to whine and lash out instead. I consider the pirate vs network war to be a war in which both sides are morally condemnable, but one in which the pirates hold an unassailable advantage. The industry will shrink, and it will only have itself to blame. It&#8217;s just business.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257690</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the best way for HBO to go out of business? Ignore pragmatic approaches to selling your content until your generation dies out and cord cutters force HBO&#039;s hand. You&#039;re really not making the point of why you should pay for cable, you&#039;re just whining because you got caught, and now you pay them what they want because you feel guilty for wanting a service they don&#039;t provide. 


You did the logical thing and got caught with your hand in the Game of Thrones cookie jar. Imagine what would happen if you could just pay a fee to get in that specific cookie jar? And pay a different fee for the Dexter cookie jar? Or the Wire cookie jar? 


The more people who stop buying into the cable business plan the better. It will only force the content creators to seek the customers directly, instead of rely on middle men to recoup the costs associated with content creation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the best way for HBO to go out of business? Ignore pragmatic approaches to selling your content until your generation dies out and cord cutters force HBO&#8217;s hand. You&#8217;re really not making the point of why you should pay for cable, you&#8217;re just whining because you got caught, and now you pay them what they want because you feel guilty for wanting a service they don&#8217;t provide. </p>
<p>You did the logical thing and got caught with your hand in the Game of Thrones cookie jar. Imagine what would happen if you could just pay a fee to get in that specific cookie jar? And pay a different fee for the Dexter cookie jar? Or the Wire cookie jar? </p>
<p>The more people who stop buying into the cable business plan the better. It will only force the content creators to seek the customers directly, instead of rely on middle men to recoup the costs associated with content creation.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Berne</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257686</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Berne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The BEST way to practice safe sex IS abstinence. The BEST way to not get hurt skiing IS not skiing. I know those options are the least fun, but they are also the least risky and the most successful. So, I agree with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BEST way to practice safe sex IS abstinence. The BEST way to not get hurt skiing IS not skiing. I know those options are the least fun, but they are also the least risky and the most successful. So, I agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257678</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This sounds like the same argument that the only way to have safe sex is to practice abstinence. What&#039;s the best way to not get hurt skiing? Don&#039;t ski. How do you watch Game of Thrones without paying $1,200 over the course of a year? Don&#039;t watch Game of Thrones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like the same argument that the only way to have safe sex is to practice abstinence. What&#8217;s the best way to not get hurt skiing? Don&#8217;t ski. How do you watch Game of Thrones without paying $1,200 over the course of a year? Don&#8217;t watch Game of Thrones.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257656</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how &quot;democracy&quot; as people like you describe it boils down to nothing less than the tyranny of the majority and has nothing to do with the rights of the individual.  Rule of the majority is a terrible model.  Its the same principle behind a gang rape or a riot.  As long as the rights of one are violated, the rights of all mean nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how &#8220;democracy&#8221; as people like you describe it boils down to nothing less than the tyranny of the majority and has nothing to do with the rights of the individual.  Rule of the majority is a terrible model.  Its the same principle behind a gang rape or a riot.  As long as the rights of one are violated, the rights of all mean nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: cronos1013</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257641</link>
		<dc:creator>cronos1013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The position behind my argument is that in today&#039;s age of global access to data, and proliferation of easily accessible access to said data across the internet, only a company who was so short sighted and who had missed the boat on how technology works, and in which direction technology is moving would take this stick their head in the sand approach to gated access.  If you don&#039;t provide users with a way to get the content they want legally, they WILL get it illegally, plain and simple.  I don&#039;t care how much you stamp your feet, or bitch and moan, if you are a content creator, then your content WILL be universally distributed, either legally, or otherwise.  So if you want to take a cut...you&#039;d better offer a legal option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The position behind my argument is that in today&#8217;s age of global access to data, and proliferation of easily accessible access to said data across the internet, only a company who was so short sighted and who had missed the boat on how technology works, and in which direction technology is moving would take this stick their head in the sand approach to gated access.  If you don&#8217;t provide users with a way to get the content they want legally, they WILL get it illegally, plain and simple.  I don&#8217;t care how much you stamp your feet, or bitch and moan, if you are a content creator, then your content WILL be universally distributed, either legally, or otherwise.  So if you want to take a cut&#8230;you&#8217;d better offer a legal option.</p>
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		<title>By: gjgustav</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257640</link>
		<dc:creator>gjgustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the action the author recommended people take. That will send a real message to HBO and their ilk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the action the author recommended people take. That will send a real message to HBO and their ilk.</p>
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		<title>By: gjgustav</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257639</link>
		<dc:creator>gjgustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People, the article is not about having to subscribe to a bunch of crappy shows to  get one good one, it&#039;s not about waiting for blu-ray release, etc.. So why are all commenters disagreeing with the article going on about how they don&#039;t like the content providers&#039; business model of forced bundling with other content, subscription models, and blue-ray release schedules. The article isn&#039;t about all of that.

The article is about whether you are justified in pirating their content just because it isn&#039;t available in the format, time, or price that you like. Why not go without it instead?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, the article is not about having to subscribe to a bunch of crappy shows to  get one good one, it&#8217;s not about waiting for blu-ray release, etc.. So why are all commenters disagreeing with the article going on about how they don&#8217;t like the content providers&#8217; business model of forced bundling with other content, subscription models, and blue-ray release schedules. The article isn&#8217;t about all of that.</p>
<p>The article is about whether you are justified in pirating their content just because it isn&#8217;t available in the format, time, or price that you like. Why not go without it instead?</p>
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		<title>By: gjgustav</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257637</link>
		<dc:creator>gjgustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But is he wrong? And if so, why?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But is he wrong? And if so, why?</p>
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		<title>By: gjgustav</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257636</link>
		<dc:creator>gjgustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you missed his point. No matter how draconian or old fashioned the content providers&#039; business model is, it doesn&#039;t give you the moral or legal right to pirate their goods. Going without their goods them will send them a message to smarten up. Pirating them will not. It&#039;s that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you missed his point. No matter how draconian or old fashioned the content providers&#8217; business model is, it doesn&#8217;t give you the moral or legal right to pirate their goods. Going without their goods them will send them a message to smarten up. Pirating them will not. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: gjgustav</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257635</link>
		<dc:creator>gjgustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cable companies own the rights to the content, so they can stick to their outdated model all they want. Until torrenters grow a spine and go without a TV show instead of pirating it, the content providers will never get the message that they should change their business model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cable companies own the rights to the content, so they can stick to their outdated model all they want. Until torrenters grow a spine and go without a TV show instead of pirating it, the content providers will never get the message that they should change their business model.</p>
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		<title>By: gjgustav</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-257634</link>
		<dc:creator>gjgustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What he was saying that if you want something that is available, pay for it. If it&#039;s not available in the format you want, or it&#039;s too expensive, then go without it. I can&#039;t think of any medical condition that requires you to need to watch a TV show to stay alive. You don&#039;t *need* to watch a TV show.


Going without it sends a message. Heck, start a letter writing campaign too. When you pirate it, what message are you sending? Even if you buy the Blu Ray later, there&#039;s no way to correlate that with you pirating it six months earlier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What he was saying that if you want something that is available, pay for it. If it&#8217;s not available in the format you want, or it&#8217;s too expensive, then go without it. I can&#8217;t think of any medical condition that requires you to need to watch a TV show to stay alive. You don&#8217;t *need* to watch a TV show.</p>
<p>Going without it sends a message. Heck, start a letter writing campaign too. When you pirate it, what message are you sending? Even if you buy the Blu Ray later, there&#8217;s no way to correlate that with you pirating it six months earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunsetwatcher</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-231384</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunsetwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t you get a life instead of telling people what to do, they don&#039;t need your advice about watching TV. They have better things to do, they are not lonely and alone like you are.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you get a life instead of telling people what to do, they don&#8217;t need your advice about watching TV. They have better things to do, they are not lonely and alone like you are&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-230544</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ummmm... actually. several. commenters. did. address. that. point. specifically.  You. apparently. failed. to. read. or. to. recognize. that. the. point. is. fundamentally. flawed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummmm&#8230; actually. several. commenters. did. address. that. point. specifically.  You. apparently. failed. to. read. or. to. recognize. that. the. point. is. fundamentally. flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-230542</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[heh heh.... I used to be a high school music teacher... I guess that&#039;s why I always seem to be singing a different tune than you do.   :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh heh&#8230;. I used to be a high school music teacher&#8230; I guess that&#8217;s why I always seem to be singing a different tune than you do.   :)</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-230540</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not at all the case.    They also want to exert some control over the way the market develops.   They have a vested interest in making sure the market functions in ways that they feel are optimal rather than letting the market develop in ways that consumers may feel are optimal.   It&#039;s not all that uncommon a strategy for a company to want to exert some influence on the ways the market functions so as to achieve a state they feel is more optimal for them.   That &quot;optimal market&quot; involves not just dollars and cents, but also issues such as control of content.


It&#039;s a totally fallacious argument to claim that this is soley because outlets like netflix are simply not profitable for them.  


Different studios have different contracts with netflix, and some are more expensive than others.    It should be obvious to everyone that if the issue was simply dollars and cents, that it would be at least theoretically possible for them to negotiate a contract where they get paid more... it would then be up to netflix (or other content providers) whether they were willing to pay that amount.  The driving factor would then be netflix&#039;s decision, not HBO&#039;s.    Is that the picture we see here?  NO!    The fact that HBO is simply not willing to come to the table to discuss, should make it obvious to everyone, that the real issue isn&#039;t just about short term dollars and cents.        It&#039;s about how the market grows and develops, and which directions HBO prefers those markets to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not at all the case.    They also want to exert some control over the way the market develops.   They have a vested interest in making sure the market functions in ways that they feel are optimal rather than letting the market develop in ways that consumers may feel are optimal.   It&#8217;s not all that uncommon a strategy for a company to want to exert some influence on the ways the market functions so as to achieve a state they feel is more optimal for them.   That &#8220;optimal market&#8221; involves not just dollars and cents, but also issues such as control of content.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a totally fallacious argument to claim that this is soley because outlets like netflix are simply not profitable for them.  </p>
<p>Different studios have different contracts with netflix, and some are more expensive than others.    It should be obvious to everyone that if the issue was simply dollars and cents, that it would be at least theoretically possible for them to negotiate a contract where they get paid more&#8230; it would then be up to netflix (or other content providers) whether they were willing to pay that amount.  The driving factor would then be netflix&#8217;s decision, not HBO&#8217;s.    Is that the picture we see here?  NO!    The fact that HBO is simply not willing to come to the table to discuss, should make it obvious to everyone, that the real issue isn&#8217;t just about short term dollars and cents.        It&#8217;s about how the market grows and develops, and which directions HBO prefers those markets to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Berne</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229975</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Berne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I totally tuned out after you said something vaguely positive about Two and a Half Men. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I totally tuned out after you said something vaguely positive about Two and a Half Men. </p>
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		<title>By: Philip Berne</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229974</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Berne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.slashgear.com/?p=241693#comment-229974</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I was a high school English teacher, so clearly I&#039;m right. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a high school English teacher, so clearly I&#8217;m right. </p>
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		<title>By: Philip Berne</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229971</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Berne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.slashgear.com/?p=241693#comment-229971</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[We learn from our mistakes. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We learn from our mistakes. </p>
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		<title>By: Philip Berne</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229973</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Berne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re not subscribing and you&#039;re not pirating, then you pretty much agree with my points. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not subscribing and you&#8217;re not pirating, then you pretty much agree with my points. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Berne</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229969</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Berne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Berne</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229970</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Berne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Loomans</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229820</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Loomans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s mainly because they&#039;re scared that most of the crap people watch they won&#039;t watch anymore when they&#039;re actually explicitly paying for it.
I mean, how many people really want to watch the random reality shows on Discovery now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s mainly because they&#8217;re scared that most of the crap people watch they won&#8217;t watch anymore when they&#8217;re actually explicitly paying for it.<br />
I mean, how many people really want to watch the random reality shows on Discovery now?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229613</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you want something for nothing if you&#039;re willing to pay for an HBOGo subscription? Just admit it, HBO is so in bed with cable that they can&#039;t break up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you want something for nothing if you&#8217;re willing to pay for an HBOGo subscription? Just admit it, HBO is so in bed with cable that they can&#8217;t break up.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah Madru</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229450</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah Madru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elaborate on that. What I see is a bunch of replies that represent more viewpoints and opinions than the narrow minded one provided by the author of the article. Opinions that come from more knowledge and a greater understanding of the issue of piracy than the author is making it out to be. You can disagree with me, but I would like a better response than that, if you&#039;re going to continue a discussion. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaborate on that. What I see is a bunch of replies that represent more viewpoints and opinions than the narrow minded one provided by the author of the article. Opinions that come from more knowledge and a greater understanding of the issue of piracy than the author is making it out to be. You can disagree with me, but I would like a better response than that, if you&#8217;re going to continue a discussion. </p>
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		<title>By: Micah Madru</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229451</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah Madru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elaborate on that. What I see is a bunch of replies that represent more viewpoints and opinions than the narrow minded one provided by the author of the article. Opinions that come from more knowledge and a greater understanding of the issue of piracy than the author is making it out to be. You can disagree with me, but I would like a better response than that, if you&#039;re going to continue a discussion. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaborate on that. What I see is a bunch of replies that represent more viewpoints and opinions than the narrow minded one provided by the author of the article. Opinions that come from more knowledge and a greater understanding of the issue of piracy than the author is making it out to be. You can disagree with me, but I would like a better response than that, if you&#8217;re going to continue a discussion. </p>
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		<title>By: cronos1013</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229412</link>
		<dc:creator>cronos1013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Either that, or he&#039;s trolling.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either that, or he&#8217;s trolling.  </p>
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		<title>By: cronos1013</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229411</link>
		<dc:creator>cronos1013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who opines professionally, you seem to have missed the technology boat as it sailed by...what exactly do you do for Samsung...I really hope, for their sake, it has nothing to do with marketing, or technology.  You&#039;re a painter, or a janitor right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who opines professionally, you seem to have missed the technology boat as it sailed by&#8230;what exactly do you do for Samsung&#8230;I really hope, for their sake, it has nothing to do with marketing, or technology.  You&#8217;re a painter, or a janitor right?</p>
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		<title>By: cronos1013</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229407</link>
		<dc:creator>cronos1013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I can say Philip, is that if you work for a technology company, you should be fired for your incredible lack of foresight, or at least assigned to a job around as technical as cleaning the damn toilets. 


Cable TV is a dying technology, just like the telegraph.  Long past are the days where tech savvy consumers accept that they must purchase 250 channels of garbage to get the five they will watch.  If a content provider refuses to let people buy their content ala carte, they will be forced to contend with piracy, and as an entity who is ignoring it&#039;s customer base, rightfully so.  


I am simply ashamed of you, someone in your position (where you have a soap box upon which to speak) should be advising the industry it into moving forward rather than scolding consumers who demand content providers change with the times.


Like many consumers, I cut cable years ago, but not to save money.  Rather I repurposed that extra cash to buy faster Internet, and got a subscription or two to online content providers.  If HBO would sell me their service streamed online for 10 bucks a month, then they would be among those who got paid. I&#039;m not sure what percentage of the $15 premium surcharge that cable companies are billing actually goes to the content producers like HBO, but I&#039;d wager it&#039;s less than 66%.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say Philip, is that if you work for a technology company, you should be fired for your incredible lack of foresight, or at least assigned to a job around as technical as cleaning the damn toilets. </p>
<p>Cable TV is a dying technology, just like the telegraph.  Long past are the days where tech savvy consumers accept that they must purchase 250 channels of garbage to get the five they will watch.  If a content provider refuses to let people buy their content ala carte, they will be forced to contend with piracy, and as an entity who is ignoring it&#8217;s customer base, rightfully so.  </p>
<p>I am simply ashamed of you, someone in your position (where you have a soap box upon which to speak) should be advising the industry it into moving forward rather than scolding consumers who demand content providers change with the times.</p>
<p>Like many consumers, I cut cable years ago, but not to save money.  Rather I repurposed that extra cash to buy faster Internet, and got a subscription or two to online content providers.  If HBO would sell me their service streamed online for 10 bucks a month, then they would be among those who got paid. I&#8217;m not sure what percentage of the $15 premium surcharge that cable companies are billing actually goes to the content producers like HBO, but I&#8217;d wager it&#8217;s less than 66%.</p>
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		<title>By: jgm</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229288</link>
		<dc:creator>jgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Game Of Thrones and the subscription model help subsidize other programs. That allows edgy content to be produced. If everything is a la carte, then only the most generic, mass market content will be produced and cable TV will become just like broadcast TV. If you want more Game Of Thrones and Breaking Bad and American Horror Story and less Two And a Half Men, support the subscription model. We only have the high quality shows because  of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Game Of Thrones and the subscription model help subsidize other programs. That allows edgy content to be produced. If everything is a la carte, then only the most generic, mass market content will be produced and cable TV will become just like broadcast TV. If you want more Game Of Thrones and Breaking Bad and American Horror Story and less Two And a Half Men, support the subscription model. We only have the high quality shows because  of it.</p>
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		<title>By: jgm</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229280</link>
		<dc:creator>jgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Americans can&#039;t have your health care. No one outside of Paris gets to see the Eiffel Tower from their window, and no one in Paris gets a view of The Grand Canyon in the morning. Them&#039;s the breaks. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Americans can&#8217;t have your health care. No one outside of Paris gets to see the Eiffel Tower from their window, and no one in Paris gets a view of The Grand Canyon in the morning. Them&#8217;s the breaks. </p>
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		<title>By: jgm</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229279</link>
		<dc:creator>jgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every. Single. Commenter. Fails. To. Address. Mr. Berne&#039;s. Point. 

Are you claiming that HBO has no financial analysts and that somehow they&#039;ve just missed what hipster kids can see - that if they just sold their product for almost nothing, they&#039;d make so much more money? Anyone making this argument has to explain how a large company like HBO somehow misses this, or concede the fact that HBO stays in business by operating in the way that makes it the most money - which then makes all their demands, well, whining. Enough people are willing to pay the price. If Game Of Thrones is HBO&#039;s &quot;killer app&quot;, the content that makes the entire purchase price worthwhile, you would NEVER, EVER allow your killer app to show up on other platforms. Apple learned this when Jobs left and they explored licensing the OS. People pay the inflated hardware prices just to get the OS. Offer the OS separately and at least in the desktop arena hardware sales would plunge. If HBO offered you GoT for a few bucks, the same thing would happen. It&#039;s not &quot;blackmailing&quot; - it&#039;s business, just like platform exclusive titles drive game console sales. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every. Single. Commenter. Fails. To. Address. Mr. Berne&#8217;s. Point. </p>
<p>Are you claiming that HBO has no financial analysts and that somehow they&#8217;ve just missed what hipster kids can see &#8211; that if they just sold their product for almost nothing, they&#8217;d make so much more money? Anyone making this argument has to explain how a large company like HBO somehow misses this, or concede the fact that HBO stays in business by operating in the way that makes it the most money &#8211; which then makes all their demands, well, whining. Enough people are willing to pay the price. If Game Of Thrones is HBO&#8217;s &#8220;killer app&#8221;, the content that makes the entire purchase price worthwhile, you would NEVER, EVER allow your killer app to show up on other platforms. Apple learned this when Jobs left and they explored licensing the OS. People pay the inflated hardware prices just to get the OS. Offer the OS separately and at least in the desktop arena hardware sales would plunge. If HBO offered you GoT for a few bucks, the same thing would happen. It&#8217;s not &#8220;blackmailing&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s business, just like platform exclusive titles drive game console sales. </p>
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		<title>By: jgm</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229269</link>
		<dc:creator>jgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes - the Draconian evil tyranny of someone setting the price they&#039;ll sell something they own to you! Phillip Berne, you couldn&#039;t be more right, and these posts prove it. The whining is ridiculous. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; the Draconian evil tyranny of someone setting the price they&#8217;ll sell something they own to you! Phillip Berne, you couldn&#8217;t be more right, and these posts prove it. The whining is ridiculous. </p>
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		<title>By: jgm</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229271</link>
		<dc:creator>jgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you seen the replies? There&#039;s no well-informed audience here. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the replies? There&#8217;s no well-informed audience here. </p>
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		<title>By: jgm</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229266</link>
		<dc:creator>jgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I assure you they employ the best financial analysts. As the article said, if they could make more money that way, they would. They can&#039;t, so they don&#039;t. It&#039;s not the &quot;Dark Ages&quot;; it&#039;s people who want something for nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assure you they employ the best financial analysts. As the article said, if they could make more money that way, they would. They can&#8217;t, so they don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s not the &#8220;Dark Ages&#8221;; it&#8217;s people who want something for nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa M Cara</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/stop-whining-and-subscribe-to-hbo-04241693/#comment-229259</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa M Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, when I was younger-there was no cable, but there were still some well done &#039;art&#039; broadcast freely over the airwaves.  And every blockbuster movie eventually made it to a broadcast station.  So the majority of our country were able to be a part of our culture as American.  This seems to be saying our culture comes at a cost that is increasingly pricing Americans out of American Art and Culture..  Capitalism even in culture eh??  I was under the impression art was created primarily for admiration, not profits-yet profit seems to be everyone&#039;s primary objective; culture be !@#*&amp;%!
PS Folks:  The Books are awesome and can be borrowed from the library for free!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, when I was younger-there was no cable, but there were still some well done &#8216;art&#8217; broadcast freely over the airwaves.  And every blockbuster movie eventually made it to a broadcast station.  So the majority of our country were able to be a part of our culture as American.  This seems to be saying our culture comes at a cost that is increasingly pricing Americans out of American Art and Culture..  Capitalism even in culture eh??  I was under the impression art was created primarily for admiration, not profits-yet profit seems to be everyone&#8217;s primary objective; culture be !@#*&amp;%!<br />
PS Folks:  The Books are awesome and can be borrowed from the library for free!</p>
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