Comments on: Samsung sucker-punched by Euro set-backs http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/ Feeding Your Gadget and Tech Obsessions Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: AppleFUD http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178178 AppleFUD Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:25:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178178 Yes indeed! That is the absurdity going on 
right now  in Germany–assume that a community design patent is indeed “valid” and ban all other products before investigating if said CDP is indeed valid–wonder what companies got that law passed.

]]> By: AppleFUD http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178179 AppleFUD Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:25:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178179 Yes indeed! That is the absurdity going on 
right now  in Germany–assume that a community design patent is indeed “valid” and ban all other products before investigating if said CDP is indeed valid–wonder what companies got that law passed.

]]> By: AppleFUD http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178174 AppleFUD Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:22:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178174 Samsung did agree to license them under FRAND however, apple is the one that has rejected the licensing terms–saying 1) they don’t need a license, 2) the patent is invalid, and 3) they already have a FRAND license via France with Samsung. Actually, hilarious when you read apple’s lawyers discuss this.

]]> By: AppleFUD http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178175 AppleFUD Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:22:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178175 Samsung did agree to license them under FRAND however, apple is the one that has rejected the licensing terms–saying 1) they don’t need a license, 2) the patent is invalid, and 3) they already have a FRAND license via France with Samsung. Actually, hilarious when you read apple’s lawyers discuss this.

]]> By: crapple http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178154 crapple Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:37:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178154 What’s a joke is that the German legal system continues to base their analysis on Apple’s community design instead of evaluating whether the community design is even valid in the first place. Of course Apple would be correct if you assume their community design is valid, but that’s not the issue. What a bunch of amateur judges.

]]> By: crapple http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178155 crapple Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:37:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178155 What’s a joke is that the German legal system continues to base their analysis on Apple’s community design instead of evaluating whether the community design is even valid in the first place. Of course Apple would be correct if you assume their community design is valid, but that’s not the issue. What a bunch of amateur judges.

]]> By: Robinhood http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178110 Robinhood Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:07:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178110 Germany is a joke and a sham. Apple is the REAL anti-competitive company here.

The law is so corrupted up that only by technicality, not rightfulness, is Samsung being investigated, while Apple, being morally wrong by pushing ridiculous lawsuits, could be legally correct. Another example of where the law protects the wrongdoer and punishes the one who is trying to defend themselves.

Germany judges must be embarrassed at their lack of intelligence.

]]> By: Robinhood http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178111 Robinhood Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:07:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178111 Germany is a joke and a sham. Apple is the REAL anti-competitive company here.

The law is so corrupted up that only by technicality, not rightfulness, is Samsung being investigated, while Apple, being morally wrong by pushing ridiculous lawsuits, could be legally correct. Another example of where the law protects the wrongdoer and punishes the one who is trying to defend themselves.

Germany judges must be embarrassed at their lack of intelligence.

]]> By: imekka http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178086 imekka Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:17:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178086 Samsung agreed to license these patents on FRAND terms, if they didn’t then they should be fined. If these rules weren’t in place Samsung could extort pretty much any company needing to use industry standards like 3G. Its a completely separate issue from Apple’s trade dress suits.

]]> By: imekka http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178087 imekka Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:17:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178087 Samsung agreed to license these patents on FRAND terms, if they didn’t then they should be fined. If these rules weren’t in place Samsung could extort pretty much any company needing to use industry standards like 3G. Its a completely separate issue from Apple’s trade dress suits.

]]> By: Perplexed http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178084 Perplexed Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:08:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178084 If a competitor is suing you for all sorts of things and doesn’t act in good faith to try to reach an agreement amicably (from the news Samsung noted they would like to work things out and from Apple, Steve Jobs noted he is going thermonuclear against handset makers of Android) then why can’t Samsung use that as leverage to get Apple to come to the bargaining table?

It makes no sense. If you own something that is extremely valuable then you’re under the scrutiny of the government to bed with your enemy yet if you own a patent for something trivial then you can use that to block a competitor’s product.

Great to know that the tag can wag the dog.

]]> By: Perplexed http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-sucker-punched-by-euro-set-backs-31211413/#comment-178085 Perplexed Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:08:00 +0000 http://www.slashgear.com/?p=211413#comment-178085 If a competitor is suing you for all sorts of things and doesn’t act in good faith to try to reach an agreement amicably (from the news Samsung noted they would like to work things out and from Apple, Steve Jobs noted he is going thermonuclear against handset makers of Android) then why can’t Samsung use that as leverage to get Apple to come to the bargaining table?

It makes no sense. If you own something that is extremely valuable then you’re under the scrutiny of the government to bed with your enemy yet if you own a patent for something trivial then you can use that to block a competitor’s product.

Great to know that the tag can wag the dog.

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