Comments on: Qualcomm: “We’re not worried about” NVIDIA Kal-El

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:33:00 +0000

They shouldn’t care. They’ll always have htc’s buisness *eye roll*

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:32:00 +0000

Exynos>Tegra 2>Snapdragon

By: Jakub Palka

Jakub Palka — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:52:00 +0000

There Dual Core at 1.5ghz can barely keep up with Tegra 2′s.

LoL at keeping up with tegra 3, no chance.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:33:00 +0000

@Mr Cunt I didn’t say anything about Apple next gen.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:31:00 +0000

@N900mixalot so if it isn’t in the phone then it isn’t dual core. I’m just stating the fact that it is one. Steve jobs in the keynote said they are dual core the A5 website says it’s dual core. what more do you want?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:50:00 +0000

Yeah that was a baaad slip-up. Thanks for correcting me! Funny thing is that T-Mobile doesn’t care about tethering with certain devices … most devices, really, but everyone else does. They’ll be missed.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:50:00 +0000

By: J-Credible

J-Credible — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:00 +0000

True. They did this with the iPad2,they marketed it as dual core 1GHz for marketing more than anything. (to match or exceed the specs of other tablets out there). iPad2 is actually clocked at 800MHz. Companies do it all the time.

By: J-Credible

J-Credible — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:30:00 +0000

By: J-Credible

J-Credible — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:28:00 +0000

There is no such thing as a 3G Playbook. Playbook 4G is coming in a few months. Currently it’s WiFi only. The reason US carriers are bearish about carrying the Playbook is because of it’s Blackberry Bridge feature. It allows the Playbook to securely encrypt data and send it to/from the Blackberry phone. This essentially allows the owner to use the internet on their Playbook tablet without having to pay for a separate mobile data plan or for a mobile plan that has ‘tethering’ enabled. Because of the encryption both AT&T and Sprint have no way of knowing if the data is being used from the smartphone, or the tablet. US Carriers are not happy about this, they want to be able to charge for a separate plan. Great for customers, bad for carriers.

By: J-Credible

J-Credible — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:28:00 +0000

By: Mike Cunt

Mike Cunt — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:51:00 +0000

apples nextgen procs wont be able to compete with the kal-el get your head out of your ass

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:32:00 +0000

ya but they should worry about tegra 4 launching in 2012 also

By: Zeorai

Zeorai — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:04:00 +0000

A5 is dual core, they had to do it even if it was necessary due to the fact that the Android handsets were getting a lot of marketing publicity for having dual core socs. But they’d rather not talk about it. As soon as they start marketing that angle, then they get in to a hardware commodity battle and they’ve lost that one once before. It’s much better to market the user experience since that’s their strong point anyway.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:54:00 +0000

Give me a fricking break. Isn’t the Sensation biting ass on Quadrant…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:54:00 +0000

Give me a fricking break. Isn’t the Sensation biting ass on Quadrant…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:34:00 +0000

Isn’t that the point that Qualcomm are making i.e. hold back on quad core until the operating system and applications have some chance to catch up. Windows 8 will likely eat up more of those clock cycles so it appears that Qualcomm have that in mind as well. But manufacturers are always pushing the next thing, because they’re wanting us to upgrade on a regular basis. In effect it’s the PC mentality of faster processors and more storage being transferred over to phone and tablet market.

Apple’s next iPhone will invariably use the same A5 dual core A9 perhaps clocked slightly slower but you’re right they probably won’t make a big thing out of it….though of course it’ll be better and more magical. :) The iPad 3 may stick with the A5 but bump either clock speed or the PowerVR graphics processing (or both) which’ll be needed if the rumoured “retina” display (with the greater number of pixels to push around) does materialise. The Tegra 2 is somewhat crippled because of the lower cost, pricing point that NVidia aimed at.

By: sola

sola — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:29:00 +0000

Although asynchronus cores are better for mobile, I don’t think that their dual-1.5 Ghz old Scorpion cores will ever beat the quad-Cortex-A9 in Tegra3 even at 1Ghz. Scorpion is roughly equal to Cortex-A9 in MIPS/Hz, so it just doesn’t add up.

Moreover, Tegra3 will get a 28nm upgrade in early 2012 at which time it will run at 2Ghz.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:12:00 +0000

Technology always seems to be about whatever product is coming next – I guess people are just keen to see what additional performance is able to be squeezed out, given that it’s often at odds with power usage. Nvidia seem convinced that Tegra 3 is going to use less power as always the proof will be in the final product. They still have a lot to prove since Tegra 2 could certainly have been handled better.

By: sansenoy

sansenoy — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:05:00 +0000

## replying below ##

No hostile intent bro, i just hate clicking the wrong button!!! Also, you’re right about dualcore, the priority for android should have been properly harnessing the GPU, android is already multicore-friendly, i believe. It’s just sad to see a dualcore phone clog up because of a live wallpaper…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:50:00 +0000

You didn’t like it on accident, you LOVED it!!!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:50:00 +0000

You didn’t like it on accident, you LOVED it!!!

By: sansenoy

sansenoy — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:48:00 +0000

##replying to your reply below, liked it accidentally##

They have bragged about it, in the only way they do – by writing it on the wall behind jobs on stage, they don’t really have to do more than that… And of course the iphone is getting it, what are you thinking man

By: sansenoy

sansenoy — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:40:00 +0000

nvidia is yet to prove itself, they had no traction with the tegra lineup at all, the first one was a complete market failure in spite of huge plans, the second is synonymous with unfinished and rushed android hardware… Why the hell is everyone so pumped up at the mention of yet another chip???

By: sansenoy

sansenoy — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:40:00 +0000

By: sansenoy

sansenoy — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:40:00 +0000

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:29:00 +0000

(1) Do we hear Apple bragging that it is dual-core? (2) Is it in the iPhone?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:23:00 +0000

Apple A5 IS dual core

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:58:00 +0000

I didn’t mean to imply that tech is or will become stagnant. It’s that the market can only withstand so many new devices before it becomes over saturated by devices with high specs and little practical application, and stalls out. All of this quad-core nonsense, though innovative, is pointless when it comes to increasing worthy and formidable consumer bases (see, e.g., Apple’s throngs of fans and users in spite of their lack of dual-core bravado).

I enjoy a lot of the talk because it is fun but it serves no practical application for the vast majority of consumers out here. I’ve seen dual-core phones but to be honest, they aren’t doing anything that iPhones can’t do–they just aren’t. I’d never consciously buy myself an iPhone, but I do see the value in their abilities, and they are quite capable compared to the dual-core (for what purpose?) phones we now have.

When MS stops Eloping along and starts producing a more solid OS, and when Google figures out where their behinds are as differentiated from their heads, dual and quad-core battles should resume, but for now they are utterly pointless save for acting as masturbatory fodder for the few die-hards who live to read about what they someday will do.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:42:00 +0000

When have you ever known technology to stand still? :) The Playbook is unproven technology in an increasingly crowded market so perhaps not much of a surprise to be finding it hard to find a carrier (if that’s indeed the case).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:07:00 +0000

Hardly a surprising headline, they’re not likely to say “Nvidia cause us to wake up suddenly in the middle of the night with a cold sweat”. :) To an extent Nvidia will certainly be a concern to Qualcomm, to assume otherwise would be naive at worst since they’re every bit a competitor. They’ve allowed them to build up a significant momentum in the growing tablet segment. But using Asus as an example, they seem willing to use different SOCs in different products (- the MeMo 7″ tablet uses a Qualcomm chip for example, with the TF101 transformer using Tegra 2). So at this early stage, it’s certainly all to play for – it might come down to very aggressive pricing rather than pure performance in the end (especially given the lack of Android optimisation for dual core processing let alone quad core). Tegra 3 should hopefully ‘fix’ some of the video hd shortcomings prevalent in the current Tegra 2 soc.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:00:00 +0000

“[Q]uad-core’s primary benefit today is on the spec-sheet, as something to impress OEMs and consumers.”

And that’s it. Vaporware and speculation-based investing are what cause bubbles to burst. Just wait for it. The market hasn’t totally stalled yet, but it will soon. Very soon. An astute person would start to hedge against tech innovation investment. There’s definitely money–more monopoly money, but money nonetheless–to be made by hedging against all of this fervor.

Just take the 3G PlayBook, for example. Now RIM [tee hee, every time] can’t find a carrier in the US to … haha … carry the device. Is Sprint destined to become the K-Mart of wireless devices? The Wal*Mart of mobile phones? Wal*Mart is doing pretty well, but look what they’ve done to manufacturers and to quality.