Lets just hope Sony doesn’t repeat itself for a second time. although its starting to truly appear that way.

Why Is xbox live superior? Have you ever played a PC online because I’ve been doing it since it began…on PC and PS3 is every bit as fast and lag free as my PC.

Xbox live is not without lag, the only difference is that they have cross game chat which I think is stupid. Yes it is a feature but I don’t want to immerse my self in skyrim and have some kid interrupt me asking me to play COD.

LMAO, whatever dude. I know plenty of 360 trays that have been stuck shut and remember this SONY IS NOT LIKE MICRO$OFT. Sony has reliable products…no electronics device is without errors which is why the industry standard for failures is 3%. Xbox 360′s was 55% for 5 years and now you have xbox gamers calling for a sleek tray slot instead of old disk tray.

Xbox has not listened to anyone. They had to add some features because they were grossly outdone. Even Nintendo Wii has had wifi and a internet browser since launch. It’s controllers have a gyroscope, bluetooth and a speaker meaning they have more value too. The cheap, SD quality Wii has had more features than xbox 360 most it’s life until last year when they finally added entertainment apps.

Sony lost great money because of everyone that jumped ship due to either the high price or the fact that 360 had an entire year as the only next gen console. About 8 million sold that year…friends game with friends and the snowball started to roll..that’s called online market by default.

Sony’s only faults this gen: Removed backwards compatibility underestimated how huge online play would be this generation & made the architecture hard to develop for.

This is far better than xbox: RROD, pay to play, no netflix without gold sub, xbox live $60/year = $300 every 5 years, best exclusives are on PC, no real exclusive content, nothing for $60/year sub to netflix, disk scratching, disk swapping, high console price but no high tech like blu ray/browser in console and blue tooth/gyroscope in controller.

You are acting like a couple of USB connections and loosing Linux due to hackers is some huge deal but then act like all of xbox’s faults are nothing when it’s really everything. What the hell dude! more than half of them failing isn’t enough for you? You not having standard hardware that even the cheap ass Wii has? You being the only people in the world that have to pay to play and yet still have adds on your homescreen?

LOL, you even paid top dollar for that POS and then had to buy a blu ray player and still couldn’t browse the internet on your big screen TV. Everything you have..PS3 has had for ages. All your new stuff is old news to us.

Sony could shake up things if they do a few things like:

- just push new IPs

- better online system with a gamer hub section on the xmb that shows all online gaming stats of you and your friends in flashy nice interface (you know the next Xbox should have one)

- not overprice the system but should actually slightly underprice it at 299$ IMO.

Too many people that I spoke to about the PS4 are convinced they do not need to upgrade anytime soon, at 299$ it will be an impulse buy. People want something fresh and whoever convinces the masses they have the freshest “game console” will win this next generation. If Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are not careful they may end up all losing to a competitor that they never even considered in the race.

Re: Absolutely, and is true with any technology. The PS3 was, arguably, the last game system that had graphic abilities greater than then-modern PCs. For the PS4, Sony can only hope to offer an alternative to PCs.
What does that mean?
- The PS4 must have a USB (or equivilant) keyboard for the MMORPG fans
- It must continue to offer Netflix and be a portal for Hula, YouTube and all other streaming services
The point here is any PC gamer should find evrything they need in a PS4 as can the online multimedia crowd. To some extent, the PS4 should even be an alternative to the abundance of Andoid TV dongles and always hyped, but never present, Apple TV for surfing the web on your bigscreen. This continues what Sony has already offered, a DVD and BluRay player for free with purchase of a gaming system.

“First and foremost, Sony needs to get even more serious about securing exclusive games for the PS4.”
Re- Quite true. The PS4 must also continue what the PS2 and PS3 have been, the best gaming system around with, arguably, the best games. A new focused attack on the PC realm, combined with their top-tier online play, will secure the PS4 throughout its lifecycle. As another post said, “the console that creates the first world of warcraft doesnt just win the war it ends the war for all time.”

Q – Perhaps Sony should offer two levels of the next PS4. Not in terms of memory, but in entirety. The casual gamer should only need 4-6GB of RAM for the games, almost no storage except USB port and only a moderate improvement over the PS3′s 6-core running 3.2GHz. For the PC, online and video crowd, Sony could offer a 8-16GB system with SSD and possibly upgrade the CPU (overclocked or cooled, or additional cores to aid multitasking).

In a business sense it did not offer Sony much of an advantage through, and the CELL processor was a disaster in business terms and probably cost Sony hundreds of millions of dollars.

Things I’d like to see: capability to play games from older versions, including the PS1 and to play them WELL; 4 controllers, seriously 2 controllers was for the NES and the world has moved on; cost effective games…if you lower the price while maintaining quality game companies would sell more. Games were cheap when I was 18 and in my early 20s, nowadays I think long and hard before dropping sixty bux, and even then a long time after all the reviews have been out.

When it comes down to it, hardware is great but it becomes moot without having good software on top .

and when you say “Browser” are you actually referring to that God awful thing that keeps trying to pull up a youtube video at launch whenever I select the “Internet” options? The Wii has a better browser than the PS3 dude.

MMO’s require a keyboard. The Marvel Universe MMO port was terrible at best. There’s far too much to do in those to actually let it just sit on a pad that merely has 9 buttons and a d-pad to function, MMO’s require more… They also require Add-on support which Sony wouldn’t allow if it was the choice between success and bankruptcy.

What you sound like you want is a PC. Buy a PC or upgrade your graphics card with the money you’d toss at a console. I mean… if you want something that blurs the line between PC gaming and Console Gaming, then connect an Xbox controller to your PC via the USB, or link your PS3 controller to your bluetooth (or just use a PS2 to USB connection to connect your PS2 controller considering there’s little to no difference between a dual-shock 3 and a dual-shock 2 except that a small group of titles use the six-axis feature.)

The only issue with it is that you have to pay for it, and that’s insane IMO.

As for the CD tray: I’d prefer a bloody tray, that’s better than the wondering when, oh when, my little mechanical gripper arms are going to fail in the PS3. And they will fail – I’m just waiting for the day. Honestly when this PS3 fails on me, I’ll be swapping it with something else other than a PS3 (I’m hoping, maybe, to pick up a refurbished gen 1 PS3.)

As for PS3 Vs Xbox: Sony HAD a better console, they did. They HAD – past tense. Since launch Microsoft actually listened to customers, worked to fix issues, replaced failing devices, offered credits for downtime and overall did everything a company SHOULD do when mistakes are made. The new Xbox’s are offering far more features than the originals. The PS3 however has been stripped of feature after feature with each revision, and Sony has even gone as far as to REMOVE given features from existing devices…. After that little “Snatch” of theirs I’m worried what else I paid for they can take away without my knowledge or ANY reimbursement to customers.

So yeah, PSN better than Xbox Live? Right. Not a chance. I don’t even own an Xbox and I know that much.

Fast forward to now and I’m wondering if Sony will release a patch to make the card reader on the front of my PS3 stop reading cards, or the two of my four USB ports stop functioning…. They’ve really stripped the poor thing down to it’s core at this point and it is very ridiculous that that was their method of reducing costs… not moving the PS2 emulation from a chip to software, or actually doing any REAL R&D, no just take stuff out to make the console cheaper!

It’s sad to see the PS3 brought down to what it is now.

Also what Sony REALLY needs to focus on is getting the PSN up to snuff…. You offer HD downloads and Games bought entirely on DLC, and then some how limit the download speed to an insanely low level. It’s sad when it takes 10+ hrs to download a 2GB game Sony. Whatever data cap or server issues you’re having, fix them before PS4 hits. I’m not the only one with this issue either, it’s crazy.

speculating but I wouldn’t be entirely surprise if the next Grand theft Auto and some other titles pencilled in for PS3/360 suddenly became a PS4 or a 720 timed exclusive launched titles, only coming out on older system at a latter date.