Comments on: Nokia Windows Phone: Everything you need to know

By: Lewessest

Lewessest — Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:15:00 +0000

i love nokia windows phone, in it having good features.
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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:04:00 +0000

It’s certainly possible. The odd thing is the question of why Nokia would then effectively torpedo the Symbian Foundation if they were going to transition anyway?

I suppose it could be that they want control of that transition.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:32:00 +0000

I’m usually a corporate cynic on this, so my thoughts are that maybe Meego sucked at the end, but partially because Elop torpedoed it. But my thoughts go further to say that the board of directors didn’t care if he sank Meego because they brought him in for his corporate ties to Microsoft and to devise the strategy to move Nokia away as a software company, especially since they really started to suck as a software company. They probably made that decision when they announced that Symbian^3 was going to be late. That was probably the last straw for the board and all of the Symbian partners. I could imagine SE and Samsung fuming over this as they had no control on when they could release their phones, and the board being pissed because their core software strategy just got delayed again. And then that’s when all the rumors about OPK’s departure started swirling. And then shortly after Samsumg and SE pulled all support for Symbian.

By: MS-Nokia DOA

MS-Nokia DOA — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:51:00 +0000

Everything we need to know about the MS-Nokia deal = Microsoft just took over Nokia for next to nothing!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:52:00 +0000

Hmm…

I’m still struggling with the mothballing of MeeGo and Symbian – not because of Symbian getting made EOL, that was always going to happen over the next two or so years, but the dropping of Qt and MeeGo which would have provided a smooth transition for customers and developers.

This made sense – sure, it would take time but then so will this and if Nokia had stuck to their schedule of making the S^3 UI a bit more pretty then it was still viable.

Unless…

Suppose MeeGo is rotten? Suppose that it just isn’t up to snuff and there are just too many technical issues with it to resolve in two years? Where does that leave Nokia? There’s no longer a clear transition and Symbian has a shelf life of three years maximum. All they can do is look to partner with someone.

Perhaps this isn’t a bad move – going with Google would give short term success but that wouldn’t be a partnership, it would be a domination with all the service revenue going out the door. Apple, RIM and HP are all closed so that really on left Windows Phone as a suitor. There weren’t any other options.

But…

Elop could be playing his cards a lot closer to his chest than we think. Nokia are still developing for MeeGo and it wouldn’t surprise me if they sever links with Intel and take it back in house (as Maemo) and work on that as a future platform, getting it right and then gradually introducing and refining it in the same way as Samsung have done with Bada.

This is a long term game and Elop may have actually played a blinder here.

By: dollphfleck

dollphfleck — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:22:00 +0000

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By: DrMiaow

DrMiaow — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:47:00 +0000

The Nokia/Microsoft Mobile7 partnership reminds me of the last scene from Thelma & Louise. Might fly or just end in a bloody confused tangle.

By: DrMiaow

DrMiaow — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:47:00 +0000

The Nokia/Microsoft Mobile7 partnership reminds me of the last scene from Thelma & Louise. Might fly or just end in a bloody confused tangle.

By: despisethesun

despisethesun — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:42:00 +0000

Well, Myriad just showed off Alien Dalvik. Given that MeeGo is now effectively a go-nowhere platform, maybe they’ll consider WebOS and I can have the best of both worlds.

By: Dzevadv

Dzevadv — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:31:00 +0000

In short … if you can wait till summer… pick webOS, i’m using both at the moment and even though I adore android, my main SIM card is in my palmpre, android really needs to work on the phone part of their devices….

By: Guest

Guest — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:26:00 +0000

Did the Nokia board agree for the CEO to make a statement of distrust in *current* Nokia devices, while appreciating Nokia’s competitors? Has that *ever* happened in the history of any company?

Did the Nokia board approve to declare *the whole production of Nokia smartphone* end-of-life, when there are no WP7 phones to replace them? What fool would buy a Nokia smartphone starting from tomorrow, until WP7 phones arrive? What fool would develop for a Nokia platform, knowing that it will soon be killed and there is no migration path to WP7?

Come on, they’re undefendable.

By: despisethesun

despisethesun — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:49:00 +0000

@Jason: This has already been pretty bad for Nokia’s stock. Something I’ve seen on a lot of the Nokia fansites compared to the general gadget blogs has been people pointing out that Nokia’s stock apparently took a 13% hit today. Yeah, WP7 on Nokia. Great news everyone!

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:26:00 +0000

It wasnt board approved. I imagine the board is pretty unhappy right now. They cant get rid of Elop because that would make the company look poorly managed and be ruinous to the stock this shortly after hiring him, but they undoubtedly can see that they made a mistake in choosing him. He could still prove himself, I can see a single path that would ultimately be good for Nokia, (investing extremely heavily in MeeGo behind the scenes and make that “one device” a 2nd gen Medfield, 1+gig of ram, next generation clear black display, 12 MP optical zoom camera, pentaband radio, real wifi, fm transmitter/reciever, PicoP projector, free tethering, etc) in other words their high end iphone challenger. If MeeGo storms the high end market, it will eventually trickle down giving Nokia the market again, while WP7 holds there market share until that happens.

If they were going to do that, Nokia would have said that MeeGo was going to be invested in as a high end operating system, but they did not.

By: despisethesun

despisethesun — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:25:00 +0000

How long until WP7 gets multitasking for third party apps? A customisable UI? App sideloading? Working microSD support?! It’s a half-finished OS based on the Microsoft philosophy, a philosophy I have opposed for as long as I’ve had any interest in technology. It is a poor re-interpretation of the things that have made Apple successful (gee, sounds like something else Microsoft makes…) and ultimately, I want no part of it. Both Android and WebOS are more feature complete, more ready, and more honest-to-god open than anything Microsoft is doing, and if Nokia is partnering with Microsoft, then I no longer see a need to support Nokia.

By: Karan Aggarwal

Karan Aggarwal — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:17:00 +0000

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My view on Nokia WP7

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:15:00 +0000

Go WebOS it is where I am going, I think.

By: Chris Davies

Chris Davies — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:47:00 +0000

WP7 will have copy/paste soon, though. I don’t know what’s going on with MeeGo, but if they’re only up to speed to get *one* device out this year then there has to be something happening – or not happening – with the platform. Taking into account that the plan is to reuse hardware intended for MeeGo for WP, then it seems the issue isn’t one of devices but of the software itself.

We don’t know enough to say, though, but for the Nokia board to agree that in effect marginalising MeeGo back to the labs and adopting a third-party platform is the best plan of attack, there has to be some pretty significant issues with it.

By: Chris Davies

Chris Davies — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:47:00 +0000

By: Chris Davies

Chris Davies — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:47:00 +0000

By: Chris Davies

Chris Davies — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:44:00 +0000

To be fair, 2012 is when they’re expecting a big flood of devices across all price points. We’ll see the first Nokia WP7 phones this year.

By: Chris Davies

Chris Davies — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:44:00 +0000

To be fair, 2012 is when they’re expecting a big flood of devices across all price points. We’ll see the first Nokia WP7 phones this year.

By: Average Joe

Average Joe — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:44:00 +0000

They had A LOT of other choices. Not only WP7 is the poorest choice they had, the way they embraced it overnight was a slap in the face to their current customers, to the developers who had trusted them, and to their own employees.

By: Average Joe

Average Joe — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:44:00 +0000

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Average Joe — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:44:00 +0000

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Average Joe — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:44:00 +0000

By: UnderDoc

UnderDoc — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:39:00 +0000

Nobody will move from Maemo to iOS without getting a lobotomy first.

By: UnderDoc

UnderDoc — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:38:00 +0000

Why is it so difficult to consider MeeGo? Why wouldn’t it be possible to have MeeGo ready until 2012, when the Windows devices are planned? How is WP7 any better without elementary functions such as copy/paste?

By: megaman821

megaman821 — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:12:00 +0000

Not that I will be buying a Nokia phone, but what choice did they have? Symbian is old, MeeGo is years out, everyone has Android out. MS is the only choice and they have a few bucks to throw Nokia’s way for development and marketing.

By: RICE

RICE — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:06:00 +0000

u not consider iOS?

By: RICE

RICE — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:05:00 +0000

Another bad decision. They are talking about the year of 2012 and whats the world is going to be look like?! They make change too SLOW just like another MeeGo project. I am sick of keep waiting their new product while their competitor has new updates almost every week.

By: despisethesun

despisethesun — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:58:00 +0000

Here’s all I need to know. They’re making Windows Phone 7 devices, a closed platform with fewer features than its open competitors. They’re forcibly relegating MeeGo to the same niche that Maemo sat in, rather than taking what they’ve learned and running with it. Based on that, I know I no longer need to consider Nokia phones when I purchase my next smartphone. The big question for me now is, should I pick up an Android phone, or a WebOS phone?