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	<title>Comments on: Meltemi tipped as Nokia&#8217;s new open-source OS ambition</title>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/meltemi-tipped-as-nokias-new-open-source-os-ambition-29183898/#comment-139769</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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And what do you mean by &quot;trying&quot; to make an own OS? Nokia already has a 
quite well working OS,  Maemo, which together with the Harmattan UI (or 
&quot;UX&quot;) has been left many people drooling over the user experience of the
 new Nokia N9.

People often blame Nokia for ditching Meego, but I wonder whether Intel is not the real culprit. I have seen some comments saying that Intel was a) quite intent on being in charge of the Meego project, B) very slow and C) too much centered on Intel CPU:s (a big problem as Intel still is practically non-existent in Mobile phones). I don&#039;t know the truth, but at least it seems clear that Nokia&#039;s decision to use their own Maemo instead of the &quot;real&quot; Meego in Nokia N9 is a testament to the fact that Meego development must have had some serious problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what do you mean by &#8220;trying&#8221; to make an own OS? Nokia already has a<br />
quite well working OS,  Maemo, which together with the Harmattan UI (or<br />
&#8220;UX&#8221;) has been left many people drooling over the user experience of the<br />
 new Nokia N9.</p>
<p>People often blame Nokia for ditching Meego, but I wonder whether Intel is not the real culprit. I have seen some comments saying that Intel was a) quite intent on being in charge of the Meego project, B) very slow and C) too much centered on Intel CPU:s (a big problem as Intel still is practically non-existent in Mobile phones). I don&#8217;t know the truth, but at least it seems clear that Nokia&#8217;s decision to use their own Maemo instead of the &#8220;real&#8221; Meego in Nokia N9 is a testament to the fact that Meego development must have had some serious problems.</p>
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		<title>By: NokiaPhoneFan</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/meltemi-tipped-as-nokias-new-open-source-os-ambition-29183898/#comment-139631</link>
		<dc:creator>NokiaPhoneFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nokia is like the boy who cried wolf..., whose gonna believe it.., 
Yes, we are 100% committed to Symbian/Meego (QT unification) few months later..
Symbian Meego not good, can&#039;t even compete with android, Apple OS, Windows.., gotta dump it..
Nokia will come back and tout QT, we never left QT...
who cares anymore..., they killed off app development, commitment from many, symbian development which could have rolled into another OS like they originally planned
Whose gonna believe you Nokia....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia is like the boy who cried wolf&#8230;, whose gonna believe it..,<br />
Yes, we are 100% committed to Symbian/Meego (QT unification) few months later..<br />
Symbian Meego not good, can&#8217;t even compete with android, Apple OS, Windows.., gotta dump it..<br />
Nokia will come back and tout QT, we never left QT&#8230;<br />
who cares anymore&#8230;, they killed off app development, commitment from many, symbian development which could have rolled into another OS like they originally planned<br />
Whose gonna believe you Nokia&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: NokiaPhoneFan</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/meltemi-tipped-as-nokias-new-open-source-os-ambition-29183898/#comment-139629</link>
		<dc:creator>NokiaPhoneFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a totally skizoid, totally rudderless company, at least HP fired there CEO
He dumps Meego which has promise, then Samsung laughs and builds Tizen which will gain traction as Samsung isn&#039;t the total skizoid, can&#039;t say anything that isn&#039;t PR crazy, and just build another OS which of course can compete and live with Apple OS, Google Android, Windows Phone.  The blah BS that there can only be three OS in the mobile world, it&#039;s totally laughable, it&#039;s the same skizoid things going on in Microsoft that has left Microsoft directionless that you get with Elop.
Hey, Symbian sucks, oh, I didn&#039;t mean it, we will support it.
Meego sucks, but we will release one device and only one device, but we will support it..
Wow, maybe we it&#039;s not such a great idea not to have our own OS, we just lost Symbian and Meego, well, let&#039;s just go and totally create a new OS, that&#039;s totally efficient isn&#039;t it, especially since others are doing it and it wasn&#039;t such a great idea to kill off all our OS and leave only Windows.
Tizen, wow Samsung must be laughing at Nokia, saying, wow, look at them implode and Nokia basically developed a lot of this for us
And other manufacturers..., they want something else because they don&#039;t want to be tied to a one horse pony or too leveraged into one OS, oh wait..., Nokia, we believe that we should just go with one OS, Windows....
WOW....
Round and round they go...
And they basically kill off QT which is pretty awesome and could have been one of those things that put Nokia over the top, pissed off people who started to get into QT, now.., they will come back and say.., hey QT, you can migrate from Symbian, Meego, to out new OS...
WOW...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a totally skizoid, totally rudderless company, at least HP fired there CEO<br />
He dumps Meego which has promise, then Samsung laughs and builds Tizen which will gain traction as Samsung isn&#8217;t the total skizoid, can&#8217;t say anything that isn&#8217;t PR crazy, and just build another OS which of course can compete and live with Apple OS, Google Android, Windows Phone.  The blah BS that there can only be three OS in the mobile world, it&#8217;s totally laughable, it&#8217;s the same skizoid things going on in Microsoft that has left Microsoft directionless that you get with Elop.<br />
Hey, Symbian sucks, oh, I didn&#8217;t mean it, we will support it.<br />
Meego sucks, but we will release one device and only one device, but we will support it..<br />
Wow, maybe we it&#8217;s not such a great idea not to have our own OS, we just lost Symbian and Meego, well, let&#8217;s just go and totally create a new OS, that&#8217;s totally efficient isn&#8217;t it, especially since others are doing it and it wasn&#8217;t such a great idea to kill off all our OS and leave only Windows.<br />
Tizen, wow Samsung must be laughing at Nokia, saying, wow, look at them implode and Nokia basically developed a lot of this for us<br />
And other manufacturers&#8230;, they want something else because they don&#8217;t want to be tied to a one horse pony or too leveraged into one OS, oh wait&#8230;, Nokia, we believe that we should just go with one OS, Windows&#8230;.<br />
WOW&#8230;.<br />
Round and round they go&#8230;<br />
And they basically kill off QT which is pretty awesome and could have been one of those things that put Nokia over the top, pissed off people who started to get into QT, now.., they will come back and say.., hey QT, you can migrate from Symbian, Meego, to out new OS&#8230;<br />
WOW&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Luciere</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/meltemi-tipped-as-nokias-new-open-source-os-ambition-29183898/#comment-139471</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Luciere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what a low blow... to drop Meego sell your soul to Microsoft and then continue to try and make your own OS?  Id hate to see what the board room is like at Nokia, but i suspect they are running around wearing helmuts and mouth guards...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a low blow&#8230; to drop Meego sell your soul to Microsoft and then continue to try and make your own OS?  Id hate to see what the board room is like at Nokia, but i suspect they are running around wearing helmuts and mouth guards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/meltemi-tipped-as-nokias-new-open-source-os-ambition-29183898/#comment-139425</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Meltemi will prove to be a great move. At the moment N9 with its Swipe-UI (which also Meltemi will use) is more user friendly than iOS or Android. Bringing that to cheap lower end has great potential for destroying the competition (among the lower end devices).

You said that HTC and Samsung are doing great. This is true especially in high end devices like Samsung Galaxy S/S2,  but their lower end products are vulnerable to increasing competition. At least the lower end Android-devices I have seen (and used) have not been very good. Even Nokia&#039;s new improved Symbian Belle -models seem to offer at least as good, and probably better, value for money.

Bringing Swipe to lower end will make the competing lower end Androids seem simply old and outdated, in a bit similar fashion to how iPhone made most of the other smartphones look a bit dated back in 2007. Android will still have the advantage of its vast number of apps, but this is quite irrelevant to a significant proportion of people (to whom a phone is first and foremost for talking, texting/tweeting, taking pictures, using the gps/map and occasional internet browsing, and other things such as design and usability take priority as long as the afore-mentioned core-functionalities are decently covered).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Meltemi will prove to be a great move. At the moment N9 with its Swipe-UI (which also Meltemi will use) is more user friendly than iOS or Android. Bringing that to cheap lower end has great potential for destroying the competition (among the lower end devices).</p>
<p>You said that HTC and Samsung are doing great. This is true especially in high end devices like Samsung Galaxy S/S2,  but their lower end products are vulnerable to increasing competition. At least the lower end Android-devices I have seen (and used) have not been very good. Even Nokia&#8217;s new improved Symbian Belle -models seem to offer at least as good, and probably better, value for money.</p>
<p>Bringing Swipe to lower end will make the competing lower end Androids seem simply old and outdated, in a bit similar fashion to how iPhone made most of the other smartphones look a bit dated back in 2007. Android will still have the advantage of its vast number of apps, but this is quite irrelevant to a significant proportion of people (to whom a phone is first and foremost for talking, texting/tweeting, taking pictures, using the gps/map and occasional internet browsing, and other things such as design and usability take priority as long as the afore-mentioned core-functionalities are decently covered).</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Meltemi will prove to be a great move. At the moment N9 with its Swipe-UI (which also Meltemi will use) is more user friendly than iOS or Android. Bringing that to cheap lower end has great potential for destroying the competition (among the lower end devices).

You said that HTC and Samsung are doing great. This is true especially in high end devices like Samsung Galaxy S/S2,  but their lower end products are vulnerable to increasing competition. At least the lower end Android-devices I have seen (and used) have not been very good. Even Nokia&#039;s new improved Symbian Belle -models seem to offer at least as good, and probably better, value for money.

Bringing Swipe to lower end will make the competing lower end Androids seem simply old and outdated, in a bit similar fashion to how iPhone made most of the other smartphones look a bit dated back in 2007. Android will still have the advantage of its vast number of apps, but this is quite irrelevant to a significant proportion of people (to whom a phone is first and foremost for talking, texting/tweeting, taking pictures, using the gps/map and occasional internet browsing, and other things such as design and usability take priority as long as the afore-mentioned core-functionalities are decently covered).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Meltemi will prove to be a great move. At the moment N9 with its Swipe-UI (which also Meltemi will use) is more user friendly than iOS or Android. Bringing that to cheap lower end has great potential for destroying the competition (among the lower end devices).</p>
<p>You said that HTC and Samsung are doing great. This is true especially in high end devices like Samsung Galaxy S/S2,  but their lower end products are vulnerable to increasing competition. At least the lower end Android-devices I have seen (and used) have not been very good. Even Nokia&#8217;s new improved Symbian Belle -models seem to offer at least as good, and probably better, value for money.</p>
<p>Bringing Swipe to lower end will make the competing lower end Androids seem simply old and outdated, in a bit similar fashion to how iPhone made most of the other smartphones look a bit dated back in 2007. Android will still have the advantage of its vast number of apps, but this is quite irrelevant to a significant proportion of people (to whom a phone is first and foremost for talking, texting/tweeting, taking pictures, using the gps/map and occasional internet browsing, and other things such as design and usability take priority as long as the afore-mentioned core-functionalities are decently covered).</p>
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		<title>By: First Name</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/meltemi-tipped-as-nokias-new-open-source-os-ambition-29183898/#comment-139407</link>
		<dc:creator>First Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t get this. Their competitors, HTC and Samsung are doing great. They&#039;re eating Nokia&#039;s lunch. Laughing behind their back. Putting ketchup on their pancakes.

So why does Nokia think this retread is a good idea? Yeah, a lot of people used Symbian. Some of those people would upgrade to a new Nokia OS. But let&#039;s be honest, they aren&#039;t going to expand their marketshare because even cheap Nokia phones run a premium yet whatever product will use this can never be any more than a dead-end featurephone.

So again. Why does Nokia think this is a good idea? My guess is pride. And pride alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t get this. Their competitors, HTC and Samsung are doing great. They&#8217;re eating Nokia&#8217;s lunch. Laughing behind their back. Putting ketchup on their pancakes.</p>
<p>So why does Nokia think this retread is a good idea? Yeah, a lot of people used Symbian. Some of those people would upgrade to a new Nokia OS. But let&#8217;s be honest, they aren&#8217;t going to expand their marketshare because even cheap Nokia phones run a premium yet whatever product will use this can never be any more than a dead-end featurephone.</p>
<p>So again. Why does Nokia think this is a good idea? My guess is pride. And pride alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Ashe</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/meltemi-tipped-as-nokias-new-open-source-os-ambition-29183898/#comment-139379</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Ashe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it uses the Harmattan UI, that&#039;ll make a lot of people happy. Qt means development for Symbian and the N9 can carry over, and if they get the kernel right, they&#039;ll be able to take it to more architectures. The last bit is me being optimistic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it uses the Harmattan UI, that&#8217;ll make a lot of people happy. Qt means development for Symbian and the N9 can carry over, and if they get the kernel right, they&#8217;ll be able to take it to more architectures. The last bit is me being optimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: SC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, talk about a company all over the place. And you thought HTC was bad...

Here&#039;s a clue- just push forward with Harmattan/Tizen. I&#039;ve never seen something that has gotten so many positive reviews be killed before getting out the door.

What the heck kind of conversations are happening up in the Nokia board room?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, talk about a company all over the place. And you thought HTC was bad&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a clue- just push forward with Harmattan/Tizen. I&#8217;ve never seen something that has gotten so many positive reviews be killed before getting out the door.</p>
<p>What the heck kind of conversations are happening up in the Nokia board room?</p>
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