Comments on: HTC bypasses Apple patent ire for 2012 Android range

By: Steven Noyes

Steven Noyes — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:15:00 +0000

Having used HTC’s battery draining poor quality POS hardware with 3+ year old GPUs, I am finding your comment funny. Sad but true.

By: Phucka PhaceBuuk

Phucka PhaceBuuk — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:03:00 +0000

iFags always complain when their ship is sinking.

By: Phucka PhaceBuuk

Phucka PhaceBuuk — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:02:00 +0000

you are so full of shit. Apple is only crying because HTC has made something better. There was no patent on said technology. HTC will always be better than any hardware that Apple makes, mainly because Apple is always 1 generation behind. Sad, but true. Apples days are numbered especially now that Steve Jobs is dead. Good riddens.

By: John Smith Paraggua

John Smith Paraggua — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:06:00 +0000

@stevenN:disqus and how would you call the upcoming IOS 5? It’s Android rip off.

the slide down notification. It slides down from the top of the screen. That’s from Android 2.0

the use of icloud. (which is ancient for android.)

the over the air update (which is ridiculously late)

where is unique in that?

By: Jonathan Oquendo

Jonathan Oquendo — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:05:00 +0000

”No. 5,946,647, a “system and method for performing an action on a structure in computer-generated data,” and No. 6,343,263, a “real-time signal processing system for serially transmitted data” can anyone believe this crap? if this is so then microsoft is in BIG & i mean BIG trouble! but in the real world theyre not because they know this is BS! and for the Australian Judge to rule that HTC cant sell any of there products in the Australian nation is pure BS, honestly men think hard, what judge in there right mind would stop a company from selling items in a whole nation because another company asks them to with some of the most broad patents in history? ill tell you a shady judge thats who, a judge thats swimming in millions & even a couple of billions thats the type of judge. one that doesnt give a crap of his people nor his national reputation & only cares about money! this is the reality. how much money do you think apple will make by taking HTC’s share in Australia?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:02:00 +0000

You really are an idiot. Have you ever once seen the unlock screen on the “true blue Android”? Based on the level of stupidity on your post, I am guessing no. Go find a Nexus with 2.1. Turn it on.

Once you go and find the basic unlock (not the key code) screen, come back and explain to the group how amazingly short sighted you are as well as having a minimal understanding of technology.

The 650 had a key-guard that would disable the keyboard/touch screen after awhile (or when it shut off Can’t remember the specifics). You then had to press a physical button (was the green talk button?) to get it going again. This is WAY WAY different than the iPhone lock screen that Google ripped-off lock-stock-and-barrel. Likewise, WP7 does it way differently. The method Google chose could use 100% the same exact code as what is in the iPhone.

By: Jonathan Oquendo

Jonathan Oquendo — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:43:00 +0000

if you werent so narrow minded youd know it isnt android that made any “swipe to unlock feature” it is the phone companies with there own skins that add these features. are you so infatuated by apple that youll defend them at the cost of looking like the biggest idiot in here? in fact apple’s swipe is left to right swiping, theyre trying to say that “any kind of swiping to unlock” is there creation. whether it be swiping to shape out a certain code or swiping to up down left & then right as an unlock code. do you understand now how retarted & idiotic this is? even my palm 650 had a feature like this. apple even tried to stop other companies from using multi touch! imagine if the first PDA’s tried to stop everyone else from using touch screen? apple is trying to stop these companies from selling products in america plain & simple,but your too blind to see that fact & only see the smoke screen they put in front of small thinkers like you.

By: Jonathan Oquendo

Jonathan Oquendo — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:43:00 +0000

By: Micah Dennis

Micah Dennis — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:20:00 +0000

how dare you there products are’nt crap there, icrap

By: Daryl

Daryl — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:02:00 +0000

Me having no knowledge about patents and sueing and all that kind of stuff.
I am wondering, as this not the only place I read : the 2 patents HTC infringed, or however it is called, are like very general patents.

If the majority of the “common” people say this, will this mean that the “professional” patent research people have the same conclusion?

Patent sueing stuff, is that like kindergarten, I like you so I push you on the floor? =)

Hopefully somebody can shed some light in my darkness.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:39:00 +0000

Except Android handset makers are at war with each other as it is not a happy family. 1/3 of the Rockstar consortium that bid against Google for the Notel patents were Android OHA members.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:35:00 +0000

But only on OS X and not iOS. HTC will end up paying some money and some on going royalties and life will continue.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:33:00 +0000

A switch? A swipe up like WP7? A soft button?

It is embarrassing that Android’s unlock could use 100% the same exact code as iOS’s unlock with different images. If used correctly, patents force innovation by coming up with new and unique methods instead of blatant coping.

By: Anthony Fawcett

Anthony Fawcett — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:26:00 +0000

Most software patents and many hardware patents are ridiculous (just like these). The reasons is that a patent examiner has about 20 hours per patent to approve or deny the patent, and the default unless sufficient evidence exists that the patent should not be granted is to grant. It is left to the courts subsequently to force re-examination and trial of patents. Just because a patent is granted doesn’t mean that it is valid. It is just presumed to be until someone tries it court.

By: Anthony Fawcett

Anthony Fawcett — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:26:00 +0000

By: Jinnat Ul Hasan

Jinnat Ul Hasan — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:28:00 +0000

I’m not surprised. You probably just an Apple fanboy who has no idea about patents. Patents are just a curse to innovation.

Apple has a patent on swiping the screen to unlock the phone. Just tell me what else you can imagine to unlock a touch screen phone other than that?

By: 20yrSoftwareEngineer

20yrSoftwareEngineer — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:09:00 +0000

Perhaps you should get a firm understanding of software patents? It is virtually impossible to do anything in the software space without “infringing” on a patent? Why? Most software patents are invalid but the amount of money necessary to fight them is too high. Software patents make everything cost more and are counter to the concepts of innovation and incremental improvement. No actual ‘theft’ occurred here, by either side.

By: Michael Cole

Michael Cole — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:56:00 +0000

Lets not forget that apple is also infringing on 2 S3 graphics patents, which HTC had just purchased. This lawsuit will come out as a stale mate.

By: Michael Cole

Michael Cole — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:56:00 +0000

Lets not forget that apple is also infringing on 2 S3 graphics patents, which HTC had just purchased. This lawsuit will come out as a stale mate.

By: Benitez Burns

Benitez Burns — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:16:00 +0000

Go apple! :-)

By: Ronnie

Ronnie — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:16:00 +0000

It’s very simple for HTC, Samsung, etc. If they want to use IP license it. Right now they’re using the IP of others and trying to see if they can get away with it. If they lose they pay, if they win they don’t pay. “Stealing” Apple’s IP was the only way they could get into the market before Apple had it sewed up completely. Doing so has bought them time to develop ways around the “Borrowed” IP.

By: Benitez Burns

Benitez Burns — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:15:00 +0000

Good luck with that assessment sir! :-)

By: crapple

crapple — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:22:00 +0000

Hey Steve Jobs, I’m posting this while taking a dump using my HTC EVO 3d… Don’t sue me I’m sure you have a patent on taking a crap since your products are crap.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:55:00 +0000

and I think you should shove your spamberries where the sun don’t shine ;)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:29:00 +0000

Exactly.

And as has been mentioned (but not promoted as much as it needs to be), HTC just bought S3′s patent portfolio – they could essentially drag everyone who makes a product with 3D images through the court, given how S3TC is pretty much a given these days.

By: Kevin Foster

Kevin Foster — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:08:00 +0000

Well, me personally, I think you should stick with the Android apps,
simply because that they WILL reach a broader audience, because they are
a phone.
http://acaiburnextremefacts.net

By: Anthony Fawcett

Anthony Fawcett — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:09:00 +0000

Any patent that is fundamental to the operation of a device (Android is an OS, and the patents do not target Android specifically, so that’s misleading btw) is going to find itself weakened on re-examination, and potentially destroyed. The strongest patents are those dealing with features that are not core, and therefore more likely to pass the novelty/non-obvious tests.

It’s pretty ballsy of Apple, and the risk they are taking is to provoke Motorola, Samsung, and HTC into a patent alliance that would be devastating for the Cupertino company. Combined, these three companies have sufficient patent power on core and incidental mobile patents to shut Apple’s product range down long term and force extensive redevelopment costs. That’s not something Apple wants, so they have to be very careful who they push and how hard.

The goal of these lawsuits isn’t to prevent HTC or Samsung making phones, it’s to slow adoption and throw a cloud over Android devices as a whole.

By: Anthony Fawcett

Anthony Fawcett — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:09:00 +0000

The goal of these lawsuits isn’t to prevent HTC or Samsung making phones, it’s to slow adoption and throw a cloud over Android devices as a whole.