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	<title>Comments on: He Said, She Said: Is an Apple UMPC more likely than a MacBook Touch?</title>
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		<title>By: Ex-Newtie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-Newtie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as the UMPC goes, Apple has been there, done that. Then Jobs killed it. It was called the Newton, and anyone who stuck with it was both delighted as it matured, and disgusted when it was killed. Developers felt even worse. Apple won&#039;t do it again because that would mean Jobs admitting he was wrong. He already did that this week. May have to wait for the next coming of Haley&#039;s coment before that&#039;ll happen again. Tablets are way niche. You are more likely to see one in your doctor&#039;s hands than in your local artist&#039;s. Still, look for some kind of convergence thinking. Apple is getting some Mac uplift from the iPhone, but that will flatten, and not much benefit from its multi-media efforts. Cracking the mid- large enterprise market will be tough and take time, and the iPhone is the only way in for the forseeable future. The MobileMe fiasco set that effort back a lot more than anyone has guessed so far. Apple could own the consumer market, pushing Sony out, but they&#039;ll have to get there ahead of HP. So, they have to continue their longer-term strategy of getting many more people to buy something less expensive from Apple and then converting them into the flock. I hate to say it, but us long-time faithful are not going to get the attention we crave for some time to come. Just more ways to spend twice what we should have to. Apple appears to be hitting on all cylinders lately, but it is on a necessarily risky course to ensure future growth. Should be an interesting year ahead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the UMPC goes, Apple has been there, done that. Then Jobs killed it. It was called the Newton, and anyone who stuck with it was both delighted as it matured, and disgusted when it was killed. Developers felt even worse. Apple won&#8217;t do it again because that would mean Jobs admitting he was wrong. He already did that this week. May have to wait for the next coming of Haley&#8217;s coment before that&#8217;ll happen again. Tablets are way niche. You are more likely to see one in your doctor&#8217;s hands than in your local artist&#8217;s. Still, look for some kind of convergence thinking. Apple is getting some Mac uplift from the iPhone, but that will flatten, and not much benefit from its multi-media efforts. Cracking the mid- large enterprise market will be tough and take time, and the iPhone is the only way in for the forseeable future. The MobileMe fiasco set that effort back a lot more than anyone has guessed so far. Apple could own the consumer market, pushing Sony out, but they&#8217;ll have to get there ahead of HP. So, they have to continue their longer-term strategy of getting many more people to buy something less expensive from Apple and then converting them into the flock. I hate to say it, but us long-time faithful are not going to get the attention we crave for some time to come. Just more ways to spend twice what we should have to. Apple appears to be hitting on all cylinders lately, but it is on a necessarily risky course to ensure future growth. Should be an interesting year ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: navanee S</title>
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		<dc:creator>navanee S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be a $400-$600 Atom-based MID/UMPC with 8-10 inch touchscreen display and built-in WiMax/WiFi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be a $400-$600 Atom-based MID/UMPC with 8-10 inch touchscreen display and built-in WiMax/WiFi.</p>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re both wrong.

Apple&#039;s next big thing will be to enhance the Apple TV (yet again) to make it a true media server, capable of meeting all your home media needs, with 500 GB of storage (up from the current pitiful amount), the ability to download Apple Lossless files from iTunes, HDMI 1.3 output, the ability to Time Machine its big media archive back to Time Capsule, and synchronize itself with iPods and iPhones.

Doing so expands Apple&#039;s already growing footprint in the home entertainment / media convergence market, which is a far far bigger market than for tablet PCs and UMPCs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re both wrong.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s next big thing will be to enhance the Apple TV (yet again) to make it a true media server, capable of meeting all your home media needs, with 500 GB of storage (up from the current pitiful amount), the ability to download Apple Lossless files from iTunes, HDMI 1.3 output, the ability to Time Machine its big media archive back to Time Capsule, and synchronize itself with iPods and iPhones.</p>
<p>Doing so expands Apple&#8217;s already growing footprint in the home entertainment / media convergence market, which is a far far bigger market than for tablet PCs and UMPCs.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really thinks it matters at all what they come out with as I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll all go crazy over it the second it comes out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really thinks it matters at all what they come out with as I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll all go crazy over it the second it comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: newmiracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>newmiracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I gotta side with UMPC.  I love the idea of a mac tablet.  Actually, I had the jones on getting a touchscreen lappy for a few months but couldn&#039;t convince myself to pull the trigger.  There&#039;s alot of novelty there, and I would love to use it for specific artistic endevors (musical, design, multimedia).  However, I don&#039;t feel that there really is a mass market for that kind of thing.  Especially when you&#039;re going to throw in the premium on touchscreen anything.

What I feel Apple has ignored for a long time, is the fact that their &#039;cheaper&#039; products sell well.  Say what you will about interface/design/etc, but iPods for a long time have always been a deal in terms of gigs per dollar.  Especially considering it&#039;s from a reputable company.  The iPhone 3G is a downright DEAL, imo.  I&#039;m not sure if people would call it a &#039;smart phone&#039; (as I&#039;m not sure of the exact definition myself), but it has alot of features for $299.  Of course you&#039;re roped into a contract, but that happens with other fully-featured phones as well.

So I think that Apple should go with an UMPC.  The important factor should be the price, which should be around 350-450.  Going with OSX would be important imo, because UMPCs have more of a &#039;productivity imperative&#039; about them than &#039;a phone that lets you google, check your email, play music and games&#039;.  UMPCs are more computer like, so go with a real OS.  Give it WiFi, but no cellular connection.  This will drive the cost down, and they won&#039;t have to worry about undercutting the iPhone or their precious iTunes Store.

Give it a slideout keyboard, and perhaps innovate with having it connect with your computer over WiFi, perhaps integrate as a remote with AppleTV.  Just remember- at most you have to keep it sub-$500 or no one will see the need for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta side with UMPC.  I love the idea of a mac tablet.  Actually, I had the jones on getting a touchscreen lappy for a few months but couldn&#8217;t convince myself to pull the trigger.  There&#8217;s alot of novelty there, and I would love to use it for specific artistic endevors (musical, design, multimedia).  However, I don&#8217;t feel that there really is a mass market for that kind of thing.  Especially when you&#8217;re going to throw in the premium on touchscreen anything.</p>
<p>What I feel Apple has ignored for a long time, is the fact that their &#8216;cheaper&#8217; products sell well.  Say what you will about interface/design/etc, but iPods for a long time have always been a deal in terms of gigs per dollar.  Especially considering it&#8217;s from a reputable company.  The iPhone 3G is a downright DEAL, imo.  I&#8217;m not sure if people would call it a &#8216;smart phone&#8217; (as I&#8217;m not sure of the exact definition myself), but it has alot of features for $299.  Of course you&#8217;re roped into a contract, but that happens with other fully-featured phones as well.</p>
<p>So I think that Apple should go with an UMPC.  The important factor should be the price, which should be around 350-450.  Going with OSX would be important imo, because UMPCs have more of a &#8216;productivity imperative&#8217; about them than &#8216;a phone that lets you google, check your email, play music and games&#8217;.  UMPCs are more computer like, so go with a real OS.  Give it WiFi, but no cellular connection.  This will drive the cost down, and they won&#8217;t have to worry about undercutting the iPhone or their precious iTunes Store.</p>
<p>Give it a slideout keyboard, and perhaps innovate with having it connect with your computer over WiFi, perhaps integrate as a remote with AppleTV.  Just remember- at most you have to keep it sub-$500 or no one will see the need for it.</p>
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		<title>By: monigrip</title>
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		<dc:creator>monigrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A UMPC (I don&#039;t care what they call it) secondary device would be awesome, Wacom style. Something that on its own can be your basic web browser/storage. And connected to your mac becomes a tablet. CPU/RAM enhancer would be an added bonus.

I&#039;m a graphic artist.... And if that&#039;s what its going to be I&#039;m sold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A UMPC (I don&#8217;t care what they call it) secondary device would be awesome, Wacom style. Something that on its own can be your basic web browser/storage. And connected to your mac becomes a tablet. CPU/RAM enhancer would be an added bonus.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a graphic artist&#8230;. And if that&#8217;s what its going to be I&#8217;m sold.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am with the lady... 

I want a BIG iphone, essentially.  something about the size of a paper back book, with 3G/Bluetooth/WiFI, so that I can run OFFICE like programs.  Google Docs, whatever...  and a fully functional browser.

3G and Mobile me if used correctly, would be fantastic for this device, file storage at mobile me, would make this a fantastic option.  I could use a handheld, for portable work, then use a desktop ask needed.  

I also like how apple has place itself inbetween the cell providers and the customer with the mobileme service...  you can flip providers, but your data sits at apple.. which is why its so hard for me, as all my data sits with google currently...

I will be in line for the megaPhone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with the lady&#8230; </p>
<p>I want a BIG iphone, essentially.  something about the size of a paper back book, with 3G/Bluetooth/WiFI, so that I can run OFFICE like programs.  Google Docs, whatever&#8230;  and a fully functional browser.</p>
<p>3G and Mobile me if used correctly, would be fantastic for this device, file storage at mobile me, would make this a fantastic option.  I could use a handheld, for portable work, then use a desktop ask needed.  </p>
<p>I also like how apple has place itself inbetween the cell providers and the customer with the mobileme service&#8230;  you can flip providers, but your data sits at apple.. which is why its so hard for me, as all my data sits with google currently&#8230;</p>
<p>I will be in line for the megaPhone</p>
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		<title>By: Hari Seldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hari Seldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no way that Apple will produce a tablet that runs Mac OS X, we already have several ways of running the Mac OS - Mac Pro, iMac and Macbooks. The tablet will run an enhanced version of the iPhone OS and definitely no physical keyboard. Remember when Steve Jobs Quoted Wayne Gretzky? &quot;I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it is&quot;.

Putting the Mac OS on a tablet is the kind of lame move that Microsoft makes with mobile phones and UMPCs, the desktop metaphor can work with a standard computer but is completely inappropriate for a mobile device. Besides which Steve Jobs in an aesthete of the highest order, expect a Zen like purity of design when Apple eventually launches its tablet device.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way that Apple will produce a tablet that runs Mac OS X, we already have several ways of running the Mac OS &#8211; Mac Pro, iMac and Macbooks. The tablet will run an enhanced version of the iPhone OS and definitely no physical keyboard. Remember when Steve Jobs Quoted Wayne Gretzky? &#8220;I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it is&#8221;.</p>
<p>Putting the Mac OS on a tablet is the kind of lame move that Microsoft makes with mobile phones and UMPCs, the desktop metaphor can work with a standard computer but is completely inappropriate for a mobile device. Besides which Steve Jobs in an aesthete of the highest order, expect a Zen like purity of design when Apple eventually launches its tablet device.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyula Bognar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gyula Bognar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is a UMPC? Please let’s stop using abbreviations all the time, we should be able to speak and write words, properly spelled and not to be primitive and use only one letter from each word which is properly describing an object. Communication is not a quiz, but it is a skill! Therefore no “whatnot” and “what it is” UMPC, if a Palm is a UMPC, I got rid of it years ago, if not I still don’t use one. Could you please spend more time providing information backed up by facts and stop the silly speculation?

UMPC? Ultra Mobile Personal Computer?  Smart! The objects described are not mobile, they don&#039;t move on their own, they have to be carried.  Therefore they could be called Ultra Portable Personal Computers. UPPC, for abbreviation lovers.  Then why bother with the word &quot;Ultra&quot;  if something is portable it it, ultra or not, what is the difference?  A small child cannot carry a &quot;portable&quot; chainsaw, but an adult could.  Therefore skip the Ultra, which makes the gadget a PPC but if one could be somewhat more inventive, it is a pocket (size) computer, is that difficult to figure out?  Oh yes, we already have an abbreviation &quot;PC&quot; for personal computers an abbreviation lovers would suffer if they have to write two words.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is a UMPC? Please let’s stop using abbreviations all the time, we should be able to speak and write words, properly spelled and not to be primitive and use only one letter from each word which is properly describing an object. Communication is not a quiz, but it is a skill! Therefore no “whatnot” and “what it is” UMPC, if a Palm is a UMPC, I got rid of it years ago, if not I still don’t use one. Could you please spend more time providing information backed up by facts and stop the silly speculation?</p>
<p>UMPC? Ultra Mobile Personal Computer?  Smart! The objects described are not mobile, they don&#8217;t move on their own, they have to be carried.  Therefore they could be called Ultra Portable Personal Computers. UPPC, for abbreviation lovers.  Then why bother with the word &#8220;Ultra&#8221;  if something is portable it it, ultra or not, what is the difference?  A small child cannot carry a &#8220;portable&#8221; chainsaw, but an adult could.  Therefore skip the Ultra, which makes the gadget a PPC but if one could be somewhat more inventive, it is a pocket (size) computer, is that difficult to figure out?  Oh yes, we already have an abbreviation &#8220;PC&#8221; for personal computers an abbreviation lovers would suffer if they have to write two words.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Simmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Simmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as i love portability, I would have to agree with Chris on this one. Replacing physical keyboard on a full time computing machine is not going to work unless Apple can change the way people compute.

This brings out a good point on Brenda&#039;s opinion on how Apple always change the way people use and see technology.

Both of you got it right to some extend, but I personally hope Apple&#039;s ultra portable tablet would have physical keyboard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as i love portability, I would have to agree with Chris on this one. Replacing physical keyboard on a full time computing machine is not going to work unless Apple can change the way people compute.</p>
<p>This brings out a good point on Brenda&#8217;s opinion on how Apple always change the way people use and see technology.</p>
<p>Both of you got it right to some extend, but I personally hope Apple&#8217;s ultra portable tablet would have physical keyboard</p>
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