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Last week’s “He Said, She Said” editorial pitted Brenda and I against each other discussing what sort of touchscreen device Apple might have on their cards.  This week, it’s something equally as topical here on the frontpage of SlashGear: netbooks, or budget ultraportables.  They’re the niche of the moment, certainly, but are consumers really getting the best value for their hard-earned dollar?

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Brenda: Netbooks, also known as nettops, are not just  “mini-laptops.” In fact, they serve a different market than laptop users and act as a smaller, more portable, more convenient means of carrying around files and information and accessing the Internet. These sub-notebooks are prepped and primed for Internet access, making them more portal than powerhouse tool. While a laptop is basically a complete portable computer, netbooks are the streamlined version for those that don’t need to carry the world with them–just the essentials.

Toshiba Qosmio F55 1Chris: Laptops, or notebook computers, don’t need much introduction.  In fact when it comes to computing, desktop sales are on the decline while laptop sales keep climbing.  Unless you’re comparing to a particularly powerhouse desktop, a laptop can do pretty much everything its stationary brethren can, and there are desktop replacement laptops that will take over all the heavy grunt processing tasks 99-percent of people will ever be asking for.

Brenda: Sure, laptops can do just about everything a desktop computer can, but what if that’s not what you need? What if all you need is something lightweight to carry around that contains your important information, files, and lets you look up information on the fly? A netbook would be ideal. The real benefit of netbooks, however, is their ability to keep you connected. Sure a smartphone can do that but the functionality isn’t quite there yet to make mobile computing on your phone a breeze. Enter the netbook. With one of these minicomputers, you can blog, write emails, social network, finish proposals, browse the Internet and more from anywhere you can get a WiFi signal. And the real plus? The price. You can expect to pay just a few hundred for a netbook whereas a good laptop can run you $400 and up. 

Chris: You might not need everything your desktop can do today, but how about a few months down the line when something unexpected and more processing-intensive comes up?  And who’s to say that there’s even a desktop waiting at home for you; most people I know haven’t bought a stationary PC in years, and rely on their laptop for all their computing.  A single machine, that does everything you need, means there’s no issue with synchronising files across multiple devices, no remembering to charge everything before you leave the house, and at the end of the day is cheaper than buying a “main” computer and a portable one.  You can browse the internet, blog, do everything you’ve mentioned – but you can also crunch video files to share on that blog, you can run multiple apps like Skype, IM and a browser full of tabs to really communicate.

Brenda: Certainly a laptop is the choice if it will be your only computer, but if you’re merely looking for something to take with you, a netbook is the way to go. The simple fact of the matter is not everyone can afford to buy a full blown laptop. They can be quite expensive, so if you know you don’t need all of that high processing power, why not get the best of something smaller? Netbooks are ideal for students as well and act as a great introduction to computers for children. Since they weigh less, kids can tote them easier and their  focused functionality better serves those newer to computers without overwhelming them. They are often sturdier as well. Netbooks may not be for everyone, but they are a great laptop alternative to those seeking the basics in a portable, easy to use format.

Chris: I’ll admit that the price of the cheaper netbooks stands them apart from current low-end notebooks, but you pay a significant penalty on specification.  Most people are going to want to step up at least a couple of rungs if they pick, say, a basic 700-series ASUS Eee PC, and even then you’d do far better – in performance and flexibility – going for a second hand laptop.  In fact eBay would be where I’d turn every time before opting for one of the cheaper netbooks; why introduce new users to a slimmed down (or even compromised) system, when they could get used to a full system based on last-year’s hardware?

Acer Aspire One 1Brenda: eBay may be a good place to get used or restored laptops with last-year’s hardware, but with a netbook you’ll get this year’s hardware without the bells and whistles. And let’s face it: it’s the bells and whistles that amp up the price on laptops. With a netbook, you get exactly what you need at an affordable price. If you’re just going to answer emails from the local coffee shop or write reports in the library, a netbook will do the job and then some. If you need some guidance as to which netbook is the prime choice, you can’t go wrong with the Acer Aspire One. This mini laptop has an 8.9-inch display, a 1.6GHz Intel Atom N2770 Processor, 512 MB RAM, an 8 GB SSD and runs Linux. What’s really great about this one is that you don’ t really have to sacrifice power for sleek and minimized design. The Acer weighs less than two pounds and is optimized for the Internet. This is the ultimate keep-in-touch device and is perfect for travel. And what will it cost you? Just $379.99. You get the portability of the laptop without the sky-high price. If you ask me, that makes this a great buy.

Chris: I won’t argue that the Aspire One is a tempting machine, but even a cursory check on eBay throws up some full-sized notebooks for the same price but offering much more in terms of their spec-sheet.  A 2GHz Dell D410 with a 12-inch display, 1GB of RAM and 60GB HDD just went for ten bucks less than the Aspire.  Or how about a 2.1GHz Toshiba L300 for a bigger display: 15.4-inches, 160GB HDD, 2GB of RAM and a DVD burner; that just went for $381.  Both running Windows XP, so there’s no Linux learning curve; both offering far greater performance, with someone else having already paid the premium Dell or Toshiba wanted for the “bells and whistles”.  Fancy something with an Apple logo?  Take your pick of MacBooks or iBook G4s going for the same as Acer ask for their netbook.

So do you trawl eBay or do you bypass all that searching and head to the new shelves with your credit card in hand?  Brenda and I can’t quite agree – she loves the netbook simplicity, while I’m a cranky Brit who wants the most grunt for his money – but we’d both love to hear your views.  Netbook or notebook: let us know where you stand in the comments.

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3 Responses to “He Said, She Said: Fashionable Netbook or second-hand Laptop?”

  1. doug August 10, 2008

    I can almost agree with both arguments. That is, your main home computer should be a full-powered desktop or a laptop. However, if you do already have a desktop in the house, or a luggable laptop, why would you want a duplicate?

    At the moment, perfectly good small computers are available for less than four hundred bucks. Better yet, these are computers with an easy to use Linux operating system and they come with all the software most people will want — software that is already installed and ready to use. The “learning curve” mentioned below is like about an hour.

    Buy a computer running a Microsoft operating system and you have to pay through the nose for the some of the Microsoft software most people want, starting with a word processor. Buy a used computer running Windows and you may get licensing problems with Microsoft. (Sorry, I don’t know how that works.)

    Sure, the smaller “netbook” or UMPC computers cannot play the expensive games many kids like. Many of those games require a computer that costs a thousand bucks, or more. But I can buy a very fine portable computer (like the MSI Wind) for $500 that would be ideal for any college student, or for use as a second computer around the house.

    The other day, I had some heavy duty research to do and started out at the local library. Apparently the searches there are done on computer nowadays, but their computers were all busy. I was told that I didn’t even need to come in to do a search anymore; I could do it from my computer at home. But, if I brought my own computer in, I could also sign in on their wireless network and have full Internet privileges, which included searching their library. I did that. Howevber, as things turned out, they did not have what I needed. But, since I was already connected to the net there, I queried the local university library and they had paper versions of everything I needed, so I went there.

    All this on a little Eee PC 701 with an easy to use Linux operating system. And, while at the university library, I made copies of some information and downloaded a lot of stuff to my little computer. Also, I took extensive notes, using the Open Office word processor that came with the little computer. Fact is, I did about 12 hours research work that day — it would have taken me two extra days without that little computer — and that work paid more than double the price of that little thing.

    Oh sure, I could have lugged in a laptop and did the same thing. But everything I wanted was not in the same place. This was no small library and I was moving around a lot. And, anyway, large laptops do not have all that much battery power. I was thinking that I would need to plug in at some point, and I did, eventually. But I got a little more than three hours on battery before the computer started complaining. That was three hours of doing downloads (which I could have done at home on the desktop) and taking notes. And, yes, many of the notes were about papers that I would later download from the comfort of my home desktop but would probably not found on line — but some were not.

    The point is that these little “netbook” computers do everything 95% of the people want in a computer. My test is to run the MSNBC news videos full screen on a computer. That’s the most difficult format so, if it works, chances are great that anything will. And, as far as I can tell, that will work on any of the “netbook” computers available.

    My little Eee PC is quite useful for many things. But, the 7″ screen is a little small for my eyes and the keyboard is too small for my fat fingers. But, it’s great for reading news articles and watching news videos and I don’t seem to have any problems taking notes on it. So, answering e-mails & such is fine. But, doing serious writing can be a problem because I make too many typos on that little keyboard. Nonetheless, I try sometimes. . . .

    Point is, if you do not have a full function computer at home, and a wireless network, one of these smaller computers may not be good for you. But, if you already have a wireless network at home, the “netbooks” are the way to go for kids and spouse. E-mail, IM, net browsing, word processing, and whatever — they do it all.

    Oh, the netbook will not play expensive games and some will not be so good for editing videos. Right! And?

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  2. Jason August 12, 2008

    I think the key thing Brenda missed is the battery life, especially for some models, I use a eee 901 which rates itself at 8 hours, I can normally get 6 hours+ at uni with wi-fi on the whole time and if I need to be power conscious can squeeze in 10 hours with the screen dimmed. Not having to carry another bag for the laptop and its power pack is grand. The silent ssd is another plus.

    The keyboard is a certainly a downer but it is great for the kids.

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  3. Netbook Computer Guru August 30, 2008

    One could conclude from your fine article that it could be one or the other, it may mean owning both a laptop and a netbook (like me), or it may be about price (a huge determining factor). In any case, the consumer likes to have options. It may take awhile for netbook computers to find their place in most homes, but it is a welcome addition to the market, because it gives a low-priced alternative to millions who could not otherwise afford a computer. They make great gifts, too!

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