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	<title>Comments on: Google: We want 2.25% of the iPhone sticker price</title>
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		<title>By: Pradyuman Vig</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182860</link>
		<dc:creator>Pradyuman Vig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t see them attacking Windows Phones do you? Their complaints are solely against Android smartphones. They even said at one point that HTC should make more Windows-based smartpohnes instead of copying. So no, they aren&#039;t trying to be a monopoly, they are just trying to defend their patents and IP, something they are obligated to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t see them attacking Windows Phones do you? Their complaints are solely against Android smartphones. They even said at one point that HTC should make more Windows-based smartpohnes instead of copying. So no, they aren&#8217;t trying to be a monopoly, they are just trying to defend their patents and IP, something they are obligated to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Pradyuman Vig</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182861</link>
		<dc:creator>Pradyuman Vig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t see them attacking Windows Phones do you? Their complaints are solely against Android smartphones. They even said at one point that HTC should make more Windows-based smartpohnes instead of copying. So no, they aren&#039;t trying to be a monopoly, they are just trying to defend their patents and IP, something they are obligated to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t see them attacking Windows Phones do you? Their complaints are solely against Android smartphones. They even said at one point that HTC should make more Windows-based smartpohnes instead of copying. So no, they aren&#8217;t trying to be a monopoly, they are just trying to defend their patents and IP, something they are obligated to do.</p>
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		<title>By: neon_wombat</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182818</link>
		<dc:creator>neon_wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Folders? you mean like from Windows? Lol. I don&#039;t know when android&#039;s voice command system started but it has been function since the release of the galaxy s2 in april 2011, some 6 months before siri was used in the 4s. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Folders? you mean like from Windows? Lol. I don&#8217;t know when android&#8217;s voice command system started but it has been function since the release of the galaxy s2 in april 2011, some 6 months before siri was used in the 4s. </p>
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		<title>By: neon_wombat</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182819</link>
		<dc:creator>neon_wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Folders? you mean like from Windows? Lol. I don&#039;t know when android&#039;s voice command system started but it has been function since the release of the galaxy s2 in april 2011, some 6 months before siri was used in the 4s. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Folders? you mean like from Windows? Lol. I don&#8217;t know when android&#8217;s voice command system started but it has been function since the release of the galaxy s2 in april 2011, some 6 months before siri was used in the 4s. </p>
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		<title>By: Mojo12</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182285</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojo12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[doubt it.  Microsoft was successful in getting royalties from some android manufacturers and more then likely Apple will need to pay up.  Guess that 47 billion cash on hand is from borrowing others tech and not paying for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doubt it.  Microsoft was successful in getting royalties from some android manufacturers and more then likely Apple will need to pay up.  Guess that 47 billion cash on hand is from borrowing others tech and not paying for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Argos_Feucht</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182255</link>
		<dc:creator>Argos_Feucht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree and &quot;max&quot; is not the same as &quot;exactly&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree and &#8220;max&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;exactly&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sgtguthrie</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182232</link>
		<dc:creator>sgtguthrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really not sure what folders you speak of. Android has had folders from day 1. As for &quot;imitation siri&quot; I don&#039;t see the point of that, as android&#039;s voice commands work better than Apple&#039;s according to Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. Ya, that&#039;s right, the woz says his day to day phone is the Motorola Droid Razr for just that reason! Funny, you didn&#039;t even respond about the notification pulldown. It&#039;s okay, neither does Apple ;-) As for waiting for ICS, I&#039;m already using it. As for white devices, does apple have a patent on the color white now? Better Sue Kenmore and LG, their refrigerators are white...lmfao!!! 

Oh Ya, how&#039;s that flash support working out for ya? 

Try again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not sure what folders you speak of. Android has had folders from day 1. As for &#8220;imitation siri&#8221; I don&#8217;t see the point of that, as android&#8217;s voice commands work better than Apple&#8217;s according to Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. Ya, that&#8217;s right, the woz says his day to day phone is the Motorola Droid Razr for just that reason! Funny, you didn&#8217;t even respond about the notification pulldown. It&#8217;s okay, neither does Apple ;-) As for waiting for ICS, I&#8217;m already using it. As for white devices, does apple have a patent on the color white now? Better Sue Kenmore and LG, their refrigerators are white&#8230;lmfao!!! </p>
<p>Oh Ya, how&#8217;s that flash support working out for ya? </p>
<p>Try again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JunitoNH</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182215</link>
		<dc:creator>JunitoNH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So are those folders treating you and imitation Siri, oh.....wait you don&#039;t know yet. You have to wait a year to get the melting ICS. Hey, by the way don&#039;t the SG2 &amp; Nexus come as a white phone, very unique must say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are those folders treating you and imitation Siri, oh&#8230;..wait you don&#8217;t know yet. You have to wait a year to get the melting ICS. Hey, by the way don&#8217;t the SG2 &amp; Nexus come as a white phone, very unique must say.</p>
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		<title>By: JunitoNH</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-182214</link>
		<dc:creator>JunitoNH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  Sounds almost like a divorce, but you did hit the nail on head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  Sounds almost like a divorce, but you did hit the nail on head.</p>
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		<title>By: devonjaks</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181998</link>
		<dc:creator>devonjaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Motorola and google should just bend over and take it.? Google is just defending themselves. Let&#039;s not forget both Apple and Microsoft want Google out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Motorola and google should just bend over and take it.? Google is just defending themselves. Let&#8217;s not forget both Apple and Microsoft want Google out.</p>
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		<title>By: devonjaks</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181999</link>
		<dc:creator>devonjaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Motorola and google should just bend over and take it.? Google is just defending themselves. Let&#039;s not forget both Apple and Microsoft want Google out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Motorola and google should just bend over and take it.? Google is just defending themselves. Let&#8217;s not forget both Apple and Microsoft want Google out.</p>
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		<title>By: devonjaks</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181996</link>
		<dc:creator>devonjaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hypocrite, Apple used the broken system first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypocrite, Apple used the broken system first.</p>
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		<title>By: devonjaks</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181997</link>
		<dc:creator>devonjaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hypocrite, Apple used the broken system first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypocrite, Apple used the broken system first.</p>
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		<title>By: Matej K.</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181942</link>
		<dc:creator>Matej K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ You&#039;re not looking very hard then. Motorola, Samsung and Google can do this but not with essential patents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You&#8217;re not looking very hard then. Motorola, Samsung and Google can do this but not with essential patents.</p>
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		<title>By: Matej K.</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181938</link>
		<dc:creator>Matej K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s sad how many people post here without having a slightest idea of what essential patents are and what FRAND means. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad how many people post here without having a slightest idea of what essential patents are and what FRAND means. </p>
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		<title>By: charlitos</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181912</link>
		<dc:creator>charlitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google never had a patent portfolio until now. Google just recently maintained Motorola&#039;s position against Microsoft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google never had a patent portfolio until now. Google just recently maintained Motorola&#8217;s position against Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: devonjaks</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181910</link>
		<dc:creator>devonjaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, so far all I can see is that Google is going after the companies who started it against them. No one else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, so far all I can see is that Google is going after the companies who started it against them. No one else.</p>
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		<title>By: devonjaks</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181908</link>
		<dc:creator>devonjaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beat me to it bro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beat me to it bro.</p>
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		<title>By: devonjaks</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181907</link>
		<dc:creator>devonjaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple started the suing using the broken patent system you&#039;re talking about. Let&#039;s not forget that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple started the suing using the broken patent system you&#8217;re talking about. Let&#8217;s not forget that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony NoName</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181842</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony NoName</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Florian? Sounds like a girl&#039;s name and this girl/guy/or it.... is a known PAID M$ shill besides being so anti-Google and Pro CrApple it&#039;s pathetic! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florian? Sounds like a girl&#8217;s name and this girl/guy/or it&#8230;. is a known PAID M$ shill besides being so anti-Google and Pro CrApple it&#8217;s pathetic! </p>
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		<title>By: Tony NoName</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181839</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony NoName</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo!!!! .....this is a good way to take a BIG BITE out of CrApple&#039;s arrogance and ignorance of the competition, that&#039;s been making mobile phones 5x longer than they have!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo!!!! &#8230;..this is a good way to take a BIG BITE out of CrApple&#8217;s arrogance and ignorance of the competition, that&#8217;s been making mobile phones 5x longer than they have!!!</p>
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		<title>By: charlitos</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181804</link>
		<dc:creator>charlitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1 - Companies shouldnt be seeking an injuction with FRAND patents(no loopholes whatsoever)

2 - The royalty base has to be related to the component that implements the technology in question not the end product.

3 - You should only demand a fair royalty fee. The royalty fee shouldn&#039;t be any higher than what the market estimates dictate.

Motorola and Samsung couldnt care less about any of these three. Apple&#039;s own FRAND patents adhere to those 3 basic FRAND commitment so does Microsoft, CISCO and many other companies. This has very little to do with Apple&#039;s bogus patent portfolio on hardware design, it is a legitimate concern to the industry. You can take Apple completely out of the equation and you still have Microsoft under FRAND fire from Motorola also claiming 2.25% per XBOX sold. This is not a reaction to litigation is a reaction to sales. 

You cant just argue &#039;Apple sued them&#039; to justify FRAND abuse, simply cause it really makes no sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 &#8211; Companies shouldnt be seeking an injuction with FRAND patents(no loopholes whatsoever)</p>
<p>2 &#8211; The royalty base has to be related to the component that implements the technology in question not the end product.</p>
<p>3 &#8211; You should only demand a fair royalty fee. The royalty fee shouldn&#8217;t be any higher than what the market estimates dictate.</p>
<p>Motorola and Samsung couldnt care less about any of these three. Apple&#8217;s own FRAND patents adhere to those 3 basic FRAND commitment so does Microsoft, CISCO and many other companies. This has very little to do with Apple&#8217;s bogus patent portfolio on hardware design, it is a legitimate concern to the industry. You can take Apple completely out of the equation and you still have Microsoft under FRAND fire from Motorola also claiming 2.25% per XBOX sold. This is not a reaction to litigation is a reaction to sales. </p>
<p>You cant just argue &#8216;Apple sued them&#8217; to justify FRAND abuse, simply cause it really makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: thereasoner</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181795</link>
		<dc:creator>thereasoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t see Apple paying the full 2.25% that the frand system allows for. Much like the other smart phone manufacturers Apple will offer something in return to lower the price. What Google/Moto is doing here is play hardball as they should. I&#039;ll use the same type of reasoning that ifans use when Apple sues for &#039;absurd&#039; patents such as rounded corners, flat surfaces, black bezels and the shape of a rectangle. And i quote: Google/Moto &quot;has an obligation to their share holders to protect their IP &quot;. The only difference in this case is that the IP in question is real, not the &#039;touchy feely&#039; bullshit that Apple likes to think is IP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see Apple paying the full 2.25% that the frand system allows for. Much like the other smart phone manufacturers Apple will offer something in return to lower the price. What Google/Moto is doing here is play hardball as they should. I&#8217;ll use the same type of reasoning that ifans use when Apple sues for &#8216;absurd&#8217; patents such as rounded corners, flat surfaces, black bezels and the shape of a rectangle. And i quote: Google/Moto &#8220;has an obligation to their share holders to protect their IP &#8220;. The only difference in this case is that the IP in question is real, not the &#8216;touchy feely&#8217; bullshit that Apple likes to think is IP.</p>
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		<title>By: charlitos</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181794</link>
		<dc:creator>charlitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Apple complies to 2.25% from Motorola and 2.4% from Samsung, thats thats almost 5% right there on FRAND alone. Samsung and Motorola are not the only companies which FRAND patents are used on the iPhone, if every single company demands such an amount of money per iPhone/iPad sold, Apple would have to pay around 40% per unit sold. That is FRAND patents alone. We are not even talking about not FRAND related patents which would bring that percentage even higher.

Motorola and Samsung proposed such a ridiculous amount on royalty fees because they knew there was no way in this world Apple would accept them for the reasons posted on my first paragraph. So based on a refusal of this proposal they plan to seek an injunction. 

Keep saying go MOTO and go SAMMY, next thing you know you will end up paying thousands for a smartphone and many other electronic devices such as game consoles due to FRAND abuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple complies to 2.25% from Motorola and 2.4% from Samsung, thats thats almost 5% right there on FRAND alone. Samsung and Motorola are not the only companies which FRAND patents are used on the iPhone, if every single company demands such an amount of money per iPhone/iPad sold, Apple would have to pay around 40% per unit sold. That is FRAND patents alone. We are not even talking about not FRAND related patents which would bring that percentage even higher.</p>
<p>Motorola and Samsung proposed such a ridiculous amount on royalty fees because they knew there was no way in this world Apple would accept them for the reasons posted on my first paragraph. So based on a refusal of this proposal they plan to seek an injunction. </p>
<p>Keep saying go MOTO and go SAMMY, next thing you know you will end up paying thousands for a smartphone and many other electronic devices such as game consoles due to FRAND abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred_EM</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181790</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred_EM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[those two guys can afford to go after each other.

patent law is a mess, a big mess.

patent law suits are als a good marketing tool.
gets you into headlines over and over again and you can say bad things about your competitor.
it is almost a weapon in social warfare.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those two guys can afford to go after each other.</p>
<p>patent law is a mess, a big mess.</p>
<p>patent law suits are als a good marketing tool.<br />
gets you into headlines over and over again and you can say bad things about your competitor.<br />
it is almost a weapon in social warfare.</p>
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		<title>By: charlitos</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181787</link>
		<dc:creator>charlitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a problem with this and I said it before:

Samsung, Motorola, Blackberry and such are not making tablets or smartphones based on their previous conception of a tablet and a smartphone. They are making iPhone like smartphones and iPad like tablets. Apple might not have the &#039;right&#039; to say &quot;no you cant use my product line as template for your new products&quot; but there is no doubt that these companies didnt just magically come up with their design concepts without taking notes from Apple. 

&#039;Slide to unlock&#039; can be easily circumvented on so many ways like it has been. Now FRAND patents are a standard, something that all companies should have the right to license under reasonable terms. Apple did so and implemented this standard 3G tech while paying the fees they had to. All of a sudden the companies that own part of the standard exclude Apple so they can get more money of each iPhone sold? Pathetic. Truth is Apple is swiping the smartphone revenue and these companies together still cant make what Apple makes with only 9% market share. They want in, they want more, they are greedy, this is not about competition anymore, this is about making money out of thin air.

This is not an answer to Apple suing Motorola, this is an answer to Apple being succesful. Just like Motorola is also demanding 2.25% of each XBOX sold and Microsoft is going like WTF. Even if Apple wouldnt have sue anyone over iOS patents this was coming regardless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a problem with this and I said it before:</p>
<p>Samsung, Motorola, Blackberry and such are not making tablets or smartphones based on their previous conception of a tablet and a smartphone. They are making iPhone like smartphones and iPad like tablets. Apple might not have the &#8216;right&#8217; to say &#8220;no you cant use my product line as template for your new products&#8221; but there is no doubt that these companies didnt just magically come up with their design concepts without taking notes from Apple. </p>
<p>&#8216;Slide to unlock&#8217; can be easily circumvented on so many ways like it has been. Now FRAND patents are a standard, something that all companies should have the right to license under reasonable terms. Apple did so and implemented this standard 3G tech while paying the fees they had to. All of a sudden the companies that own part of the standard exclude Apple so they can get more money of each iPhone sold? Pathetic. Truth is Apple is swiping the smartphone revenue and these companies together still cant make what Apple makes with only 9% market share. They want in, they want more, they are greedy, this is not about competition anymore, this is about making money out of thin air.</p>
<p>This is not an answer to Apple suing Motorola, this is an answer to Apple being succesful. Just like Motorola is also demanding 2.25% of each XBOX sold and Microsoft is going like WTF. Even if Apple wouldnt have sue anyone over iOS patents this was coming regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: jezza</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181776</link>
		<dc:creator>jezza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[go MOTO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go MOTO</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181740</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Agreed...it is broken.  Like how Apple gets patents for technologies they didn&#039;t invent? :)  Slide to unlock, anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Agreed&#8230;it is broken.  Like how Apple gets patents for technologies they didn&#8217;t invent? :)  Slide to unlock, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181741</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Agreed...it is broken.  Like how Apple gets patents for technologies they didn&#039;t invent? :)  Slide to unlock, anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Agreed&#8230;it is broken.  Like how Apple gets patents for technologies they didn&#8217;t invent? :)  Slide to unlock, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181738</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Funny....go to any auto body work shop and get a quote for some bodywork.  What do they ask you?  They ask if you&#039;re paying cash, or covering it with insurance.  Guess what?  If you tell them insurance, the price is higher.

Price *does* change depending on what you&#039;re using it for. 

Same thing if you call your phone company to request a phone line or Internet service.  In either case, if you&#039;re using it for residential purposes, you pay one rate, and if you tell them it&#039;s for business, the price goes up *for the exact same service*.  Because they know there&#039;s more money to be had.

There are hundreds of similar examples.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Funny&#8230;.go to any auto body work shop and get a quote for some bodywork.  What do they ask you?  They ask if you&#8217;re paying cash, or covering it with insurance.  Guess what?  If you tell them insurance, the price is higher.</p>
<p>Price *does* change depending on what you&#8217;re using it for. </p>
<p>Same thing if you call your phone company to request a phone line or Internet service.  In either case, if you&#8217;re using it for residential purposes, you pay one rate, and if you tell them it&#8217;s for business, the price goes up *for the exact same service*.  Because they know there&#8217;s more money to be had.</p>
<p>There are hundreds of similar examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181739</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Funny....go to any auto body work shop and get a quote for some bodywork.  What do they ask you?  They ask if you&#039;re paying cash, or covering it with insurance.  Guess what?  If you tell them insurance, the price is higher.

Price *does* change depending on what you&#039;re using it for. 

Same thing if you call your phone company to request a phone line or Internet service.  In either case, if you&#039;re using it for residential purposes, you pay one rate, and if you tell them it&#039;s for business, the price goes up *for the exact same service*.  Because they know there&#039;s more money to be had.

There are hundreds of similar examples.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Funny&#8230;.go to any auto body work shop and get a quote for some bodywork.  What do they ask you?  They ask if you&#8217;re paying cash, or covering it with insurance.  Guess what?  If you tell them insurance, the price is higher.</p>
<p>Price *does* change depending on what you&#8217;re using it for. </p>
<p>Same thing if you call your phone company to request a phone line or Internet service.  In either case, if you&#8217;re using it for residential purposes, you pay one rate, and if you tell them it&#8217;s for business, the price goes up *for the exact same service*.  Because they know there&#8217;s more money to be had.</p>
<p>There are hundreds of similar examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181732</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Hopefully those same commissions will start looking at Apple as well.  Fair is fair.  As punishing as the 2.25% rate is, at least Motorola/Google are agreeing to payment terms, whereas in Apple&#039;s perfect world nobody else would be allowed to make smartphones.  Motorola&#039;s comfortable being in competition. Apple is using their cash reserve to sue every single competitor they can out of the game.  They want to be a monopoly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Hopefully those same commissions will start looking at Apple as well.  Fair is fair.  As punishing as the 2.25% rate is, at least Motorola/Google are agreeing to payment terms, whereas in Apple&#8217;s perfect world nobody else would be allowed to make smartphones.  Motorola&#8217;s comfortable being in competition. Apple is using their cash reserve to sue every single competitor they can out of the game.  They want to be a monopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181733</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Hopefully those same commissions will start looking at Apple as well.  Fair is fair.  As punishing as the 2.25% rate is, at least Motorola/Google are agreeing to payment terms, whereas in Apple&#039;s perfect world nobody else would be allowed to make smartphones.  Motorola&#039;s comfortable being in competition. Apple is using their cash reserve to sue every single competitor they can out of the game.  They want to be a monopoly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Hopefully those same commissions will start looking at Apple as well.  Fair is fair.  As punishing as the 2.25% rate is, at least Motorola/Google are agreeing to payment terms, whereas in Apple&#8217;s perfect world nobody else would be allowed to make smartphones.  Motorola&#8217;s comfortable being in competition. Apple is using their cash reserve to sue every single competitor they can out of the game.  They want to be a monopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181730</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Payback&#039;s a b.....

Of course, I&#039;ll feel better knowing if this arrangement actually goes forward, and doesn&#039;t get thrown out on some technicality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Payback&#8217;s a b&#8230;..</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;ll feel better knowing if this arrangement actually goes forward, and doesn&#8217;t get thrown out on some technicality.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181731</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Payback&#039;s a b.....

Of course, I&#039;ll feel better knowing if this arrangement actually goes forward, and doesn&#039;t get thrown out on some technicality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Payback&#8217;s a b&#8230;..</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;ll feel better knowing if this arrangement actually goes forward, and doesn&#8217;t get thrown out on some technicality.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181724</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ That&#039;s why Apple&#039;s getting sued.  They copy, just as much as the other guys do.  They just have better marketing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That&#8217;s why Apple&#8217;s getting sued.  They copy, just as much as the other guys do.  They just have better marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181725</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ That&#039;s why Apple&#039;s getting sued.  They copy, just as much as the other guys do.  They just have better marketing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> That&#8217;s why Apple&#8217;s getting sued.  They copy, just as much as the other guys do.  They just have better marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Topping</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181708</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Topping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facts, sir, are a distraction, and the menagerie would be very appreciative if you would keep them to yourself!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts, sir, are a distraction, and the menagerie would be very appreciative if you would keep them to yourself!  </p>
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		<title>By: John Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181699</link>
		<dc:creator>John Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is awesome.  Apple started this crap and now they can have some of their own medicine! F U Apple!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is awesome.  Apple started this crap and now they can have some of their own medicine! F U Apple!</p>
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		<title>By: charlitos</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/google-we-want-2-25-of-the-iphone-sticker-price-09212763/#comment-181688</link>
		<dc:creator>charlitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is seriously absurd. I have no idea how a company can abuse a FRAND patent in court in such way. This legal system is broken to no extent. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is seriously absurd. I have no idea how a company can abuse a FRAND patent in court in such way. This legal system is broken to no extent. </p>
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