Comments on: FBI is inside every recent cellphone

By: Reko_reko21

Reko_reko21 — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 00:05:00 +0000

lol v good info but who care fbi is bunch of nubis

By: classicviralvids

classicviralvids — Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:05:40 +0000

1984 here we com…. to late. damn it

By: ?????

????? — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:13:43 +0000

http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/military-police-equipment.html

By: ?????

????? — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:11:46 +0000

Cell phones have (3) three major vulnerabilities:
Monitoring of your phone conversations
Phone can be used as a microphone to eavesdrop (even when your phone off)
A cell phone number may be used by other

By: chris frankinfort

chris frankinfort — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:22:12 +0000

Working in a cell network, they still come in and tap calls, meaning Nokia, Motorola ect. has to give them the equipment to encode the binary encription. Each phone is uniquie.
The walsh code is a code paired with your esn (bunch of hex numbers on the back of you cellphone). the walsh code changes like 3 times a second and is a random script that changes and starts all over again in I thing around 40 days. The only thing that will encode this is the cell on the other side of the call. This is to prevent hackers from listening to your phone conversations. Law inforcment is two busy 2 worry about your personal calls, its difficult to tap cells as they have trouble sync. 2 cells together although they do it. The microphone thing in therory cant be done unless you still had a call up. If the cell is keyed down GPS could still be trasmitting, but it cannot carry voice. If the FBI is listening to your calls its to late, they have somthing on you and are trying to get more. As of now I dont care what they do to save lives post 9/11.

By: Recidivist

Recidivist — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 06:55:07 +0000

[quote comment="16484"][quote comment="13904"]If you are worried about misuse, hope to God no Democrat gets into the Presidency any time soon. Especially if they have ANY connection to the Clintons.[/quote]

[quote comment="13904"]If you are worried about misuse, hope to God no Democrat gets into the Presidency any time soon. Especially if they have ANY connection to the Clintons.[/quote]

Republicans lost the war, Republicans voted in a trader and a terrorist.

I’m voting Democrat.

Basically, the republican party voted in a man who shit on us [Americans]. Then sells us the magical spray to keep the flies off.

Clinton was great! One of the great presidents of our time. He even acted like any man in this nation would have…. cheated on his nagging, bitch-wife who by the way is a very patient but demanding woman. If she runs for presidency, I’ll vote for her because I think women should be given the opportunity. Just look at all the damage men have done since time started!

Look on the bright side, every 28 days they’ll have a man hanging day. We can start with Bush on the first day. :D

Who’s with me?[/quote]

All Presidents are corrupt and whorish puppets. It was Clinton himself, who failed to veto House Resolution 666 (yes, that’s the number). That gave the right to executive powers to use ANY evidence garnered by tap without a warrant.

By: Clear Thinker

Clear Thinker — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:32:18 +0000

If your cell privacy is so important, why not just install one of those antennas that light up when the phone is transmitting or receiving? If it’s been activated without your knowledge you will visibly see it and all without “cutting” your phone to pieces because you are paranoid. Besides, some of those flashing lights look cool. They are also available as pens and keychains.

Sometimes the simplest answer is the easiest.

By: Jeremy Norrie

Jeremy Norrie — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:28:49 +0000

9/11 was an inside job, now america is turning into a police state. STOP THE CRIMINALS FROM TAKING OVER!

1984

By: Resident Genius

Resident Genius — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:20:12 +0000

It’s too noticeable. Standby time on cell phones is now, what, over a week? Talk time is what, a couple hours? If your cell batteries are always dead, you know something is up. Sure, they could get around it by only switching it on when you’re doing something interesting (read: Incriminating) but otherwise, they can only get a few minutes a day without a paranoid you noticing. And, if you’re sufficiently paranoid and intelligent, you could force them to tip their hand. Start talking about the dead bodies you keep in your basement, and when they raid your place, you know they’ve been spying on you.

Or, instead of the switch between the battery and the phone, install a milliamp (microamp?) meter, which senses how much power the phone is drawing. If it trips for more than a couple seconds at a time, you know that your phone is drawing power, and it only draws significant power when it is transmitting.

By: tboz

tboz — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:08:13 +0000

the key to seeing that this is complete lunacy is that what recent work with the genovese crime family has been going on…John Gotti has been dead over ten years…there is no more genovese crime family…..if they had said some internal al quaida operatives i might have bit on this one…nice try

By: Marshall K

Marshall K — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:48:08 +0000

Have you ever received or made a phone call near a speaker and heard the interference through the speaker until u pick up? Well, can’t we use this concept in a hand held device which alerts us whenever a _signal_ leaves/arrives to our cellphone, regardless of it being SMS or phone call?

HAVING THIS DEVICE lets u know for sure if you’re being spied on, and if you find that you’re being eavesdropped on, make sure to tell the Fag Body Inspectors to go wipe their ass or something since they got nothing better to do. It’s a matter of privacy, not whether you’ve done something wrong or not.

You could even make your own device by purchasing a microwave detector and integrating it in your own circuitry.

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:50:48 +0000

[quote comment="13904"]If you are worried about misuse, hope to God no Democrat gets into the Presidency any time soon. Especially if they have ANY connection to the Clintons.[/quote]

Republicans lost the war, Republicans voted in a trader and a terrorist. I’m voting Democrat.

Basically, the republican party voted in a man who shit on us [Americans]. Then sells us the magical spray to keep the flies off.

Look on the bright side, every 28 days they’ll have a man hanging day. We can start with Bush on the first day. :D

Who’s with me?

By: More wary of the Gov. by the Day.

More wary of the Gov. by the Day. — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:42:31 +0000

Just another reason why i do not, nor do i plan on owning a cell phone, nor do i own any credit cards or put ANY of my personal information over the web. They may know who i am, but i sure as hell ain`t gonna make it any easier for them!

By: Adam Scarf

Adam Scarf — Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:16:10 +0000

Read the book 1984 by George Orwell. This book talks about a fascist society and Big Brother under the guise of Democracy.

Oh my God; this is actually happening!

By: rsmllc

rsmllc — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 16:56:29 +0000

If you are unsure about your phone and are not technically able enough to remove it, just remove the battery whenever you turn off the phone. A pain, yes, but without power the spy mic can’t work. As for the “if you don’t do anything illegal, it’s no big deal” people, hey, if you really believe that, why don’t you let Big Brother install mics and cameras into every bedroom and bathroom? If you haven’t done anything wrong, it’s no big deal, right?

By: sean costello

sean costello — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:48:35 +0000

actually, they’ve had this technology for about 3 years. plus there’s no way to take this feature off the phone as it’s software built-in to the processor, so sure, take the processor out of your phone. see how well that would work. not only that, but the camera can be accessed as well in the new 3g phones. EVEN WHEN THE PHONE IS OFF ! so how’s that for spying?? so if law enforcement has had this for 3 years we know the military has had it for 5.

By: info

info — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:43:09 +0000

freedoms are not free.
we have to fight for them
unfortunately i don’t see this happening in america.
yeah, as you can see this does not even bother some
and that is even more scary….
us is full of people who have already died.

By: leek

leek — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:17:53 +0000

Old News, as some were saying. Here’s a discussion, with informative technical details:

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/04/0456220

By: TerraHertz

TerraHertz — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 08:03:15 +0000

Very simple test to see if this is being done to your phone. Buy one of those little LED gadgets that lights up when its near a phone that is transmitting. Even if the phone is ‘pretending’ to be off, to transmit the voice signal it still needs to transmit RF. Normally phones transmit short RF bursts regularly even when not on a call, so they can maintain their link to the nearest cell base. But while the phone is sending voice, it transmits much more often. You can hear this if the phone is near a poorly shielded stereo or other audio device – the ‘brrrt brrt brip brrt…’ sounds are the RF packets the phone is sending, being picked up by the stereo amp circuits.
If your phone starts doing this while its supposed to be switched off, you have a problem. Exactly the same problem we all have (an insane, out of control US administration) but focussed right on you.

By: gebser

gebser — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:09:30 +0000

[quote comment="14153"]LOL just don’t do anything illegal…and they’ll never hack in..and if they do…then don’t worry about it cus your not gonna do anything illegal…i don’t know why people worry about stuff like this. it’s not that big a deal to me…there’s nothing that i say ANYWHERE that the fbi would be interested in..or even consider worth their time.[/quote]

John Lennon never did anything illegal, but the FBI was all over him. Same for just about every anti-(Vietnam-)war movment of the ’60s and ’70s.

Tom Delay (the Republican congressman who used his office to sell influence) used HSA to locate Democrats who didn’t want to show up for a quorum (which isn’t an illegal activity).

So if you believe that being innocent will preclude your being surveilled, you’re just very naive and/or not very well informed.

By: Danny

Danny — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 19:00:19 +0000

LOL just don’t do anything illegal…and they’ll never hack in..and if they do…then don’t worry about it cus your not gonna do anything illegal…i don’t know why people worry about stuff like this. it’s not that big a deal to me…there’s nothing that i say ANYWHERE that the fbi would be interested in..or even consider worth their time.

By: send the fbi to iraq

send the fbi to iraq — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 14:51:00 +0000

They want to do some listening in, send them to Iraq, find out where the insurgents are..
let their ass risk getting blown up instead of 18-20yr olds…
Don’t worry, be happy.. there are companies making wireless internet based phone technologies in handsets which are proprietary.. then a company can make a PROFIT by including ultra encryption standards. If you really need secure voice communications, cell phones are not really the best idea. Just think; you pay taxes to government which more and more wants and needs to spy on YOU the public… your government just doesn’t trust you anymore… for shame.
The world more and more wants to kill western civilization, and yet we must be the problem– solution: create an Orwellian society of no secrets and soviet union style spying to look more like the rest of the world. Is it the chicken or the egg?

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 14:24:13 +0000

[quote comment="13904"]If you are worried about misuse, hope to God no Democrat gets into the Presidency any time soon. Especially if they have ANY connection to the Clintons.[/quote]

Gee, do ya think that the spying on Americans happening during a REPUBLICAN Criminal administration could be relevant, or is it somehow the fault of democrats?

By: liz

liz — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 11:17:03 +0000

Should everyone DROP cell phones until corporate America stops selling out Americans? I’m ready to go turn my in for a credit. WTF in America ya’ll> Who do these people doing this stuff think they are anyway>? STOP THE WAR

By: Marianne

Marianne — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 01:32:56 +0000

Well, I left one country with these tactics – now I find myself in yet another country with the same ideas “CONTROL” – No Freedom here anylonger …and another concern – I was just told that we are all being mind-controlled via Television so we are not able to react as our sixty children (now our parents) did— they got things started … BUT we just sit arround blogging each other and still living away precious times of reaction.
When do WE as People wake-up, get off of our comfort zones and take to the streets !!! Are we all Lazy, “the lazy generation” such comforting words to ” THE CONTROLLERS “. Come-on, get it on – we have the power in numbers, let’s make a STAND! H>E>L>L>O !!!!!!!!!!

By: BohemianGrover

BohemianGrover — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:45:45 +0000

Its funny, the same people who have no problem with the government listening to their every word are the same people who were not taught real history in government controlled schools. The greatest threat to any people throughout history has and always will be their own government. Our freedoms continue to dwindle away until even the fools wake up one day and realize that they are literally a slave with no redress. Obey or the gulag. Think as we tell you to think or else. It is coming…

By: Mantra

Mantra — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:26:20 +0000

[quote comment="13851"][quote comment="13849"]For a discussion with little hype on this issue check out this reputable site:
http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000202.html/quote

What made it more reputable than this site?[/quote]

Lauren Weinstein runs the “Computer Risks Digest” which is the web version of the usenet newsgroup “comp.risks”. Comp.risks has been around on the Internet since the 1988 (pre-Web, pre-Gopher, etc.) and Lauren has been a regular on the ‘Net even earlier. Comp.risks has a long history of being the first place to hear about all manner of human-engineered computer and machine threats to life, limb and liberty. In many ways Comp.risks is an education in the dark side of the profession of human-designed interfaces of machines as compared to user interface design a la Apple, Don Norman, et al.

This is not to say that this blog is not reputable, but only that Lauren and comp.risks has a demonstrably longer legacy of reputable information about this kind of subject.

By: Clem

Clem — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:10:13 +0000

GET A LIFE… If the FBI wants to listen to my cell phone conversations between me and my girl friends it is going to sound like a sex hot line…

A Concerned American… @ Dec 31st, 2006 7:20 am

Yeah, right. From the tone of the rest of your comment, you sound like a classic bull-fruit.

By: A Concerned American...

A Concerned American... — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:20:28 +0000

What the hell is wrong with you people, if you are not selling weapons to terrorists or are a terrorists and you are not doing anything agenst our country what the F@CK do you have to worry about… Do you really think that your conversation is going to be that interesting to the FBI… do you really think that you are that important to them… GET A LIFE… If the FBI wants to listen to my cell phone conversations between me and my girl friends it is going to sound like a sex hot line… And if you are one of those Terrorists Bastards I hope the FBI listens to your cell phone conversations and Kick’s down your door and SHOOTS you in the head… Welcome to America…!!!

By: aviationwiz

aviationwiz — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:56:50 +0000

To quote a friend of mine: “should come with a sticker “FBI Inside”"

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:43:02 +0000

I used telegrams until western union stopped that service a couple months ago. now i have to send someone money to include a message, what a crock.

By: Court Kizer

Court Kizer — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:40:22 +0000

Not to mention it’s mostly the phone calls they listen to, which they just get a warrant (or not) to listen in, and it’s easy as cake to listen into the call, but for ops where they want to listen when the phone is off the hook it draws battery power. My guess is somehow they switched out this guys battery with one that had the transmitter installed, or somehow modified his phone.

If this was built into every phone, I think we’d probably know about it (there are always leaks). There are many models of phones (even 5 years ago) that could do this simply by going into diagnostic mode, and changing options where it would be transmitting to the cell tower when you ended your call.

By: Court Kizer

Court Kizer — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:36:42 +0000

I don’t actually believe this. The FBI, probably did what they have done since the 1920′s, which is modify the phone so when it’s “on the hook” or in this case not on a call it’s transmitting to somewhere close by. Meaning they probably got the phone modified, and had a longer range transmitter installed. There are plenty of sites on the internet that will show you how to do this for yourself.

By: bcon

bcon — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:17:27 +0000

[quote comment="13847"]Just wire a hardswitch in between the battery and phone contacts.
Open up your phone, buy a smaaallll switch and cut a little hole in
the side of your phone to install it. wire the switch between the
battery contacts and the power-in on the phone circuit board.

Done. Tap-proof.
cordially,
Doc[/quote]

Why not just wire that switch to disconnect the mic instead? That way at least you can still txt ;-)

By: Axel

Axel — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:48:49 +0000

Another way around is to wrap the phone in foil, sound will get through, but nort EM radiation. This takes care of hidden batteries, remote commands and proximal cell identification.

By: wxave

wxave — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:23:36 +0000

I waer my phone on my hip, in a leather case, i know for a fact that you cant hear anything if you are listening while the phone is in the hip case. I know this, becuase until i learned to lock my keypad, it would often call people and they woudl get to hear ambient noise for a while.

I am skeptical of such a ability being added to recent phones. I suspect that this is actually a rehashing of a bluetooth exploit that was actually closed by the phone comminuty in recent years. The said exploit only worked via bluetooth and was limited by the physical range limitation of bluetooth.

However I wonder if there is anything to actually add to a phone to make this technically feasible. The phone carrier is already connected to your phone in a passive way. It is possible to conceive that they could send a signal that opened a call. hmmm.

By: Mr E.

Mr E. — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:04:16 +0000

The real issue here is if such a thing did exist, it would be used by parties other than the FBI far more frequently. Imagine how much personal info the identity thieves could get from you by using this? And to say “Oh its not crackable because we never told anyone how to do it” is BS.

Someone will figure out how to take advantage of it. If its real (I doubt it) then its only a matter of time.

The Mini-USB charging is a good thing IMO. How f’ed up is it to change your charging adapter every generation or so just to make consumers pony up another $39.95 for their 2ndary chargers, car chargers, etc.

By: cybergeek

cybergeek — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:51:10 +0000

Hey guys,

This is so easy for us, the techies. Just put on a costumed flip-close switch in series with the mic. That’s all…. Because if the phone is not flip open, the circuit of mic and main amplifier will be open, hence no voice signal can go through to reach the amplifier. And that once the cell is flipped open, the mic completes with the circuit. Simple as pi. :-)

By: Ron

Ron — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:49:14 +0000

Why don’t you just stick a wad of juicey fruit in the mic. hole?

By: John Rambone

John Rambone — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:22:01 +0000

[quote comment="13901"]If you done nothing wrong, i dont think there is anything you need to worry about. However, mis-use of it will be another issue of concern[/quote]

And how do we know you have done nothing wrong if we don’t investigate you? Of course if you have done nothing wrong there is little need to worry and when we do investigate you we will be discrete and neither tell you of the investigation nor leave any trace that in fact you were investigated unless of course we do uncover something but even then it will be our option.