If yes, then I guess the real question is: Does Ben, the Director of Consumer Technology Analysis and Research with Industry and Market analysis firm Creative Strategies, Inc. hate Nintendo?

I’m sure, that Nintendo likes to keep 100% of the income from games to them selves. If they released Mario on other systems, people wouldn’t buy systems from Nintendo, and Nintendo would lose their 100% games. I thought, that this is very simple. Nintendo has plenty of screens, from which they can show Mario and his many partners, and yet theres still two more screens coming very soon. Perhaps its Sony and MS, that would like to make their IPs available for Nintendo consoles?

” The average smartphone gamer plays casual games for a couple of minutes during their commute or lunch break. Stuff like Angry Birds that has little depth but still fun to play, as the one aspect of its gameplay is addicting.

Now, how many of these people would sit through Ocarina of Time? Super Metroid? Go through all 96 stages of Super Mario World?”

I think this is just building a straw man argument. No one said anything about bringing games of that kind of complexity to the iPhone, iPad, or Android phones, although they certainly could do it I suppose if they wanted to. Look at id and Unreal.

I’m definitely sure that classics like Donkey Kong or the original Mario Bros. are not too complex for casual gamers, as that’s who the entire early arcade market was built around and when these games came out.

Even if Nintendo refused to port them over, or if the interface didn’t support touch controls, there’s always the option they could build them from the ground up.

Just a thought. Once again, no one is saying they’d try to bring over Super Smash Bros. on their iPhone. I certainly don’t think you read the article carefully.

” The average smartphone gamer plays casual games for a couple of minutes during their commute or lunch break. Stuff like Angry Birds that has little depth but still fun to play, as the one aspect of its gameplay is addicting.

Now, how many of these people would sit through Ocarina of Time? Super Metroid? Go through all 96 stages of Super Mario World?”

I think this is just building a straw man argument. No one said anything about bringing games of that kind of complexity to the iPhone, iPad, or Android phones, although they certainly could do it I suppose if they wanted to. Look at id and Unreal.

I’m definitely sure that classics like Donkey Kong or the original Mario Bros. are not too complex for casual gamers, as that’s who the entire early arcade market was built around and when these games came out.

Even if Nintendo refused to port them over, or if the interface didn’t support touch controls, there’s always the option they could build them from the ground up.

Just a thought. Once again, no one is saying they’d try to bring over Super Smash Bros. on their iPhone. I certainly don’t think you read the article carefully.

NOW they are claiming that they’re going to deliver a device more powerful than the PS3 and Xbox 360? Don’t make me laugh. Once Sony and Microsoft’s sales start to dip, they’ll come out with their next-gen consoles too, and you can damn well be sure they’ll make the Nintendo’s next console look archaic once again.

And as for the whole “Sega/Atari” etc. comparison… THAT writing’s been on the wall for years now and while Nintendo’s first years or so with the Wii proved successful, sales immediately stagnated after and then started dropping once again to Xbox and PS3 once they came out with Wii’s only innovation: motion control.

The Wii proved, unequivocally, that appealing to the casual gamer is futile. It was a fad, nothing more. You mention that Nintendo doesn’t need to whore out their beloved characters and that people buy their consoles strictly to play those characters? That is exactly why they’re in the boat that they’re in. And by the same token, it is why their “casual gamer” audience is being massively eroded by mobile platforms that appeal to the same demographic.

If Nintendo had any sense, they would bow out of the home console market entirely and focus on the DS and handheld/mobile gaming or some console that could pack the punch of the Wii but be portable at the same time. THAT would be a winner.

But until they realize that casual gaming by itself isn’t sustainable, they will die a long slow death.

After all, their diehard fans aren’t getting any younger.

Now, how many of these people would sit through Ocarina of Time? Super Metroid? Go through all 96 stages of Super Mario World?

Very few.

These games are purchased, played, and enjoyed by the hardcore gamer. They bother to find every heart piece, get 100% completion, and find every power star. Hardcore gamers LOVE exclusive games for their console of choice. Go check out any gaming forum if you need proof.

Seeing Mario on an iPhone (officially), in my opinion, would be heartbreaking. The magic would just be lost. The same way it was with Sega. I was the biggest Sega fan back in the day. I can still remember the first time I played Sonic Advance, seeing the Nintendo logo pop up and then seeing Sonic, it felt just….wrong…

I think that the core audience of Nintendo would react the same way. They wouldn’t defect or anything, but it would not be something they would happily embrace.

Now, how many of these people would sit through Ocarina of Time? Super Metroid? Go through all 96 stages of Super Mario World?

Very few.

These games are purchased, played, and enjoyed by the hardcore gamer. They bother to find every heart piece, get 100% completion, and find every power star. Hardcore gamers LOVE exclusive games for their console of choice. Go check out any gaming forum if you need proof.

Seeing Mario on an iPhone (officially), in my opinion, would be heartbreaking. The magic would just be lost. The same way it was with Sega. I was the biggest Sega fan back in the day. I can still remember the first time I played Sonic Advance, seeing the Nintendo logo pop up and then seeing Sonic, it felt just….wrong…

I think that the core audience of Nintendo would react the same way. They wouldn’t defect or anything, but it would not be something they would happily embrace.

So instead of just playing the DS – which is an EXCELLENT portable, whether that’s DS/DSi/DSL/DSi XL/ whatever, which has controls DESIGNED to play the games….you’d rather play them on a phone? Really?

So for example, if you are playing Super Mario Bros. Nintendo DID renew their IP on that title, as you can buy it for the Wii currently from the Nintendo Store, and a ROM of that game IS illegal…

I doubt that will make you stop playing the pirated ROMs you have, but you do need to realize that some do not like breaking the law to play games on a phone. Again I really only play games on the phone that are designed for it, because the controller tends to work best.

I do wish Sega was making consoles again – it would be nice to see them back in the game with something awesome, but their biggest mistake was to not make a console after the Dreamcast (Good system, just bad marketing and some issues with the motor)

I finally had hands-on the 3DS, and same store had the DSi-XL out where people could see and touch it too. When I first saw the display, I had thought the XL was the 3DS, until I got a closer look, and found out how much smaller the 3DS is. I haven’t even bothered to see if the 3DS has Bluetooth or not, yet, but I’d be annoyed with them for leaving it out.

Nintendo has a habit of removing features, then adding them back. The IR port, for example, was on the GameBoy Color, then removed from the Advance, SP, Micro, DS, DSLite, and DSi, but shows up in many DS cartridges, where it costs more to add the extra hardware rather than build it into the system. Similarly, the Advance, SP and Micro could be used as a controller for their then-current GameCube. That went away with the DS and Wii, but who knows, maybe they will bring it back in the next system.

There were so many GB games that used rumble cartridges, it was a startling omission to not see it standard on the DS/Lite/i/XL. Is it really that hard to continue to move in a forward direction? Of course, removing compatibility with the GB and Advance opens up the opportunity to sell you the same games over again in a new format. Perhaps they are learning from Sony, with the Cassette/CD/MD and DVD/Blueray strategy.

Time will till if Nintendo will eventually have to move in this direction, but I don’t fault them for milking every dollar out of the console industry until it fails for good.

Time will till if Nintendo will eventually have to move in this direction, but I don’t fault them for milking every dollar out of the console industry until it fails for good.