Comments on: ASUS Transformer Prime sets massive benchmark pre-release

By: Chris Bowen

Chris Bowen — Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:53:00 +0000

You can achieve hire then 60fps, it is just that the human eye cant tell the difference.

By: Russell Wiley

Russell Wiley — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:01:00 +0000

Consumers do care about the horse power in a device. Why do you think the Galaxy s2 is so popular? I’ve heard so many things of why the duel core exynos processor in the galaxy s2 is fast. Asus has an advantage over other quad-core tablets that will be coming out later, they can say it’s the first tablet with it. Even without mentioning the other advantages this tablet has it’ll catch people’s attention with just saying that. Ow and it will have a 12 hour battery life without the dock, this would make it the longest lasting tablet on the market too.

By: Filip Cvejic

Filip Cvejic — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:15:00 +0000

you trolls in the comments are just a bunch of trolls!! its gonna be an awesome tablet!!!

By: Hesham

Hesham — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:51:00 +0000

How could you judge he is an Apple fan boy ? He has a point even though it has a reply on. I think lots of end users will just get fed up with all these techi-details and ask simpler questions like “How a quad-core CPU will affect my tablet experience ? How can the amount of RAM affect this experience ?

It is then the smart marketing from companies to show users that 1) Buying a Quad-Cored tablet will greatly help with battery life and “Movie Editing”, so you can edit your home videos much faster. 2) Higher amount of RAM allows for better multi-tasking (which other competitors lags behind).

For me, I will buy the older transformer without the keyboard, as my work mainly depends on a powerful specs that even Tegra 3 won’t keep up much with (search for benchmarks between Tegra’s vs Intel). and I will be waiting for the next Tegra 4 to come out, this is when I may replace my main-working laptop with it.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:49:00 +0000

“Lol stupid comment much? The iPad 2 had more improvements than the Transformer Prime.”
What???

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:25:00 +0000

I don’t like how this is solely comparing vs phones. Where are the other tablets in this comparison??

By: plunder

plunder — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:14:00 +0000

The transformer was an interesting twist on the format issue of Tablets – and to some extent net-books. Furthermore ASUS seem to be backing this twist with some fast footwork and development cash. Android on tablets has some way to go before it can match the smoothness and polish of the iPad; but at least ASUS are approaching the sector with some imagination and producing some compelling hardware.

By: Big R

Big R — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:19:00 +0000

All I have to say is that I am getting a tablet in the coming weeks. Which one that is, I am not sure. The Transformer Prime with the Tegra 3 is extremely intriguing. I have never liked Apple products, but the iPad 2 is hard to argue. I hope stores like BestBuy have this in hand so I can compare it to the iPad 2. I would much prefer the Prime over the iPad 2.

By: bsteed

bsteed — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:14:00 +0000

The iPad is a toy; it’s an oversized iPod Touch, and it always will be.

By: sola

sola — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:55:00 +0000

I do care about the quad core instead of two. This will be the first ARM based machine which clearly beats current Atom offerings and serve as both a netbook and as a tablet.

By: Chiefdarklord69

Chiefdarklord69 — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:12:00 +0000

I read somewhere that there’s actually a slow 5th core designed to take over when the more powerful 4 cores aren’t needed, thus leading to huge battery life.

By: fteoOpty64

fteoOpty64 — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:09:00 +0000

Actually, Tegra3 is actually a penta-core SoC with the small Arm7 running when nothing much is happening and switch to a pair of A9 cores when usage goes up. This switching is in milliseconds so not noticable. On high usage all 4 A9 cores goes live but will switch down to 2 cores if not needed, this seems dynamic with strong power gating in the modules.
So expect almost the same battery life due to the more advanced power management in general use. If one is going gaming all the time, the battery will drain faster compared to Tegra2.

By: Cutoffthespam

Cutoffthespam — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:33:00 +0000

Ok….guess I’m the idiot…posted against the wrong person. Sorry Eavan….that post was meant for $390AsharesisTruly….crap…what a stupid name…

By: Cutoffthespam

Cutoffthespam — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:32:00 +0000

You’re an idiot. Do some research before you post, Apple Fanboy

By: Eavan Hamilton

Eavan Hamilton — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:56:00 +0000

Is it hard to believe that a superior hardware manufacturer made a product with superior hardware inside it?

By: Eavan Hamilton

Eavan Hamilton — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:54:00 +0000

More like twice the power and twice the battery, up to 10 hours by itself or 16 hours with the keyboard dock.

By: AlteredLifeXD

AlteredLifeXD — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:47:00 +0000

iPad 2 is a complete waste of money.

By: Chand

Chand — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:43:00 +0000

I’ve read this is one will come with a holographic user interface

By: Chanda

Chanda — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:39:00 +0000

We care, and how is 16 hours half the battery life? keep researching. All Asus fans know what to expect, we’ve been tracking and waiting.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:08:00 +0000

Lol stupid comment much? The iPad 2 had more improvements than the Transformer Prime.

What “next steps” are they taking besides a new processor and OS (which was also done with the iPad 2)?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:25:00 +0000

I don’t know how to feel about this. These seems like overclocked dual core numbers than Quad Core numbers. I expected to see higher 3D numbers. Maybe it’s a function of the benchmark itself – like how cheaper video cards outperform more expensive ones at lower resolutions. Either this is fake or I’m going to be a little disappointed :(

By: Lxnduke

Lxnduke — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:02:00 +0000

Way too early to get so worked up about this device either way. I’m just happy that they are taking the next steps and not putting out a “new” device with minimum improvements to the hardware and charging you more for it…(cough, cough….IPAD 2).

By: Brian Hayes

Brian Hayes — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:53:00 +0000

?? I have a ASUS Transformer and love it, I plan at looking at the Transformer Prime when it comes out. I agree with you that processing power is not the be-all end-all I am just as interested to see if they thin it out and bring its weight down.

As to the battery life, I guess you haven’t been reading about the Tegra 3 chipset, though it is 4 core it is showing equal if not better battery life than the Tegra 2 chips out there right now. It is designed to shut down 3 of the 4 cores when they are not needed to conserve power.

My current ASUS Transformer with the Tegra 2 gets about 8 hours (of use) of battery life when I am not using the dock, when I use the dock it gets about 14 hours. I usually leave with my tablet in the morning at 6:30AM and get home around 6PM from work and my Transformer usually still has about 30% to 40% to its battery. The materials on the Prime show so far about the same battery life as the current transformer, so if it has x2 performance and the same battery life I will be pretty happy.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:37:00 +0000

They will. I will say I really like my Transformer and will be taking a good look at this new version.
Looking good!

By: $390AShareIsTrulyExciting!}:-D

$390AShareIsTrulyExciting!}:-D — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:12:00 +0000

Unfortunately for ASUS, consumers aren’t going to care that it has a quad-core. It takes a lot more than raw processing power to sell a tablet. So, what will consumers get? Twice the power, half the battery life? Let’s see how many of those Transformer Prime’s they’re able to sell and if they can manage to keep the price reasonable.

By: Billy Moffat

Billy Moffat — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:08:00 +0000

If you think we won’t be seeing quad-core phones this year, then I have a bridge to sell you.

But look at the Xoom up there in all its glory. The Iconia A500 is barely on par with the Galaxy SII either, and the original transformer is roughly the same.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:13:00 +0000

Yes, definitely the same hardware if it’s a quad core CPU. Well done.

By: Hey

Hey — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:02:00 +0000

FAKE! So it seems that the ASUS Prime must pack a 2gb memory (see memory part) since it doubles the amount of score! Or maybe a ddr3 for that case. But i dont hink ddr2-ddr3 could cause such double performance on this hardware.

By: Håkon Nilsen

Håkon Nilsen — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:27:00 +0000

It’s the same CPU, same RAM, same GPU in tablets and phones. The main difference? The size of the screen and battery.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:17:00 +0000

Interesting… so all the Tegra 2, OMAP 4, Exynos and S3 chipsets should perform better on ICS you think?

I will keep an eye out to see how it works! I definitely agree that some changes, such as the JIT compiler added in Android (2.2 I think?) make a very big difference in some of these tests… so it could just be software/drivers after all.

By: Sopheak Hean

Sopheak Hean — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:14:00 +0000

It is because of ICS. ICS device have better GPU and CPU implimentation, not to mention better resource management

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:03:00 +0000

NEON isn’t GPU, its SIMD-cpu. The ARM equivalent to SSE.
But you’re correct that Tegra2 didn’t have it.

By: Guest

Guest — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:35:00 +0000

The Xoom is on there, which is the only tablet on there, and the GPU score is 2x the Xoom. Everyone already knows that Tegra2 was a failure in the GPU department for not implementing the NEON instructions, so I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss this chart.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:28:00 +0000

Yeaa I was wondering the same thing. If anything I guess its cause its running Android, but still. They should have tested it against other Tablets

By: Minhnodda

Minhnodda — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:31:00 +0000

Why are they testing a tablet against smartphone ??

By: Naps1saps

Naps1saps — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:29:00 +0000

ditto. I’ve seen the performance difference on the Nvidia demo app and Tegra 3 is almost twice as fast in 3D graphics as a dual core.

By: Chris Burns

Chris Burns — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:28:00 +0000

Uh no I didn’t, I took it on the ATT Galaxy S II.

By: Wayne Anderson

Wayne Anderson — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:23:00 +0000

Remember that the Tegra 3 has a number of integrated features that no prior device has implemented in the hardware to date. As a result, it is unlikely that the software for this benchmarking suite has had the ability to implement those features into the model that is used to calculate the 3D rendering scores.

For example, is real time dynamic lighting included in the scene generation? The answer is almost certainly no. What mobile platform device has been able to do that before? None of course, so they had nothing to test or implement that feature.

How do we know what the measure of the 3D performance was in the first place? Is it predicated exclusively on fps? Does the availability or lack of availability of certain specific features modify the score?

Has the application been modified to take advantage of pipelining differences between the different chipsets at all?

Right now there is almost no information out there on how the metrics in this suite are derived and the basic analysis you can do on the product so far indicates that the assessment is very, very simple. Comparing known devices with significant qualitative differences in specification, you end up with very close quantitative scores. This kind of deviation raises significant accuracy concerns for the current specifications, let alone accepting the benchmark for a speculative new device which it is not yet optimized to properly assess.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:09:00 +0000

Indeed strange. Also, why is the Nexus Prime faster than the Galaxy SII? The GSII with Exynos has outperformed the OMAP4XXX chipsets the vast majority of the time so far; it looks like the GPrime is superficially high here….

By: Bill Conan

Bill Conan — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:01:00 +0000

there is a 60 fps (or may be 30 fps) software limitation for graphics rendering.

No matter how strong your graphics is, you can only achieve 60fps at best. So in order to test graphics, you have to use a really graphics intense test.