Comments on: Apple’s Jony Ive blasts misguided design rivals

By: StreamOfUnconscionableActs

StreamOfUnconscionableActs — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:49:00 +0000

So what if they’re using a different kind of memory?

It definitely ought to cost something closer to 35$ than 100$.

By: Albert Verduzco

Albert Verduzco — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:45:00 +0000

Personally I don’t really consider myself an apple hater (maybe a little bit). I was an early iphone adopter, the last iphone I used was an iphone 4. I stopped using the iphone because like others, I got tired of the 3.5″ screen, no SD card and so on. I like the hardware, but the specs are not the best. I don’t like way they think, that’s all. They probably did sell 37M iphones but how many android devices were sold in that quarter? For me, the iphone does not meet MY requirements, therefore, as a consumer, I decide is not the best product. Apple gets a lot of attention because they release one product for everyone to buy in one day and everyone who wants one is eager to get one that one day. Android sells millions of phones EVERY DAY, put them all together and that would create a lot of attention too. Consumers are choosing and little by little more and more are choosing androids, consumers want options not just one product, and I don’t think is my opinion, I think it’s a fact.

By: Guest

Guest — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:16:00 +0000

Absolutely. Dollar for dollar, you can get better, more powerful computers than a Mac, for the same money. For the money you could spend on a Macbook Pro you could get a Dell that is far more powerful. For many users, that may not matter. For someone doing complex work, it may.

By: Guest

Guest — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:16:00 +0000

By: Petcomputer123

Petcomputer123 — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:21:00 +0000

YYeah tired of same old design, its not cool anymore isheeps.

By: PROM3TH3US

PROM3TH3US — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:59:00 +0000

iTurd didn’t design anything. They stole the best from each product designs out there and put it together. For example Sony Keyboard.

By: logicsense

logicsense — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:23:00 +0000

Its odd that people tend to forget that apple is not really a company made for techies. Its devices
are made to simple work well when started up for those who really don’t want to mess with settings and upgrading and the like. You just get what you expect a decent middle of the road computer.
Microsoft has computers with great possibilities for those who can unlock them. They can easily outstrip a Mac dollar for dollar if you can build/ upgrade your own computer. Microsoft has great non-techie devices too. They have two different approaches to building a computer.
Both companies have downfalls but they both have benefits.

By: thereasoner

thereasoner — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:36:00 +0000

OK, try and make something that “appears new” or is “different” and thats pursuing “the wrong goals”. OR, make something that appears similar to existing products and thats “slavishly copying”.
Why not just be honest ?, come out and say in plain english that you don’t want to have any competition.

By: notbornyesterday

notbornyesterday — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:29:00 +0000

Sorry
my initial post was intended to rebut the comments concerning design innovation. So my example might have been confusing.

True,
the memory types are not interchangeable, but… The memory technology of the
two is not that tremendously different either. That said I’ll retire the memory
argument.

As
someone already pointed out the quotes are from an Apple employee so a bias is
expected. Apparently I may have been a
bit steamed as I felt the insinuation was that only Apple has competent designers.

By: Bob Fuesz

Bob Fuesz — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:11:00 +0000

I’m a pretty big Android fan, although I do have an OG iPad.
I’ll just say this:
There are different types of flash memory, some cheap, some not. Apple isn’t using the same type of memory that you bought in your 32GB chip.

By: notbornyesterday

notbornyesterday — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:05:00 +0000

Oh!
Apple you flatter yourselves too much! You haven’t made too many real
innovations here.

Now,
marketing! That’s what Apple excels at.
Apple has managed to convince a whole generation of consumers that their
products are somehow greatly superior to its competitors.

“If we
can’t make something that is better,” Ive says, “we won’t do it.”. Better for who? Apple or the consumer. Let’s look at the iPad. To go from a 16 GB iPad to a 32 GB iPad is
over $100 difference. $100 for 16GB –
seriously Apple?. I bought a 32GB memory
card for my LG phone, it cost less than $35 (the memory card not the phone). So 16GB of Apple memory cost $100 while 32GB
of memory in the open market is $35. Maybe
I should have bought the 16GB iPad and bought another 32GB memory card for $35
to stick in it. Oh wait that “cleanest
and most iconic consumer electronics” item doesn’t have a memory card port. Another marketing home run. Tell the consumer
it’s not less options – it’s a cleaner sleeker design that is so much cooler
without those ugly expansion ports.

One more
small point. MONEY! When you have a practically unlimited budget
to work with its not too hard to create some really cool stuff. When you have
very little to work with that’s when innovation happens. I won’t even open the topic on how big corporations
can and do use vast supplies of money to stifle the competition, make it disappear. Oh guess i just did.

By: TheRealCBONE

TheRealCBONE — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:20:00 +0000

I agree that they are doing something right. If more people tried other things, they might not sell so many products. I know many dedicated Apple product users that do nothing but whine about their products and the limitations/issues. It doesn’t stop them from getting the next big Apple thing and bitching about what that can’t do too.

By: rogifan

rogifan — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:33:00 +0000

Better is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously Ive will be biased in favor of Apple. But last quarter they sold 37M iPhones and 15M iPads so obviously they’re doing something right. I love how all the Apple haters say there are better products out there as if it’s fact and not their opinion.

By: rogifan

rogifan — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:33:00 +0000

By: companyemails

companyemails — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:25:00 +0000

I give apple credit and critique where they are due. Ive does have a point. It is no accident that company after company has release products in a number of categories that in many ways resemble apple designs from MP3 players to all-in-one computers, to smart phones and tablets. I’m not saying that Apple has better design than anyone else (I really don’t think so), but they definitely are very good at designing products that are immediately recognizable as being distinctly apple. Whatever your feelings on that may be, the products themselves tend to be solid and relatively trouble free. That combination of distinct, handsome design, and solid quality and user experience really helps sell the company’s products. I suspect that it is at least in part that association that some companies hope to capture when they design their products to resemble apple’s.

That said some of apple’s design decisions drive me bonkers.

By: companyemails

companyemails — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:25:00 +0000

That said some of apple’s design decisions drive me bonkers.

By: Albert Verduzco

Albert Verduzco — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:15:00 +0000

What a dumb guy.
“If we can’t make something that is better, “we won’t do it.”. There are better products than the iphone out there, there are better products than the ipad out there too. He doesn’t decide what is better, consumers decide that and they are deciding all over the world. Stupid company with their stupid ideology. They said the iphone was at least five years ahead of any any other phone when it came out and it took about three for everyone to see better things than the iphone.

By: Guest

Guest — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:35:00 +0000

Or doing things other things better. Like having a full, battery enabled keyboard dock. Or giving more connectivity options for instances when the Cloud is not available, which is easy any time you go off grid. Or expandable memory, which also doubles by giving more connectivity options. All things Apple’s competitors are doing.

I travel to client locales on a regular basis, and frequently am off grid. Getting files off a tablet or phone would be significantly more difficult at those times if it wasn’t for some of the options Apple’s competitors offer. Consequently iPad is an inferior solution in my job.

That’s not to say it’s an inferior product…..but that it’s not suitable for all customers, due to some of the choices that they make.

Apple is not unique in innovating or adding “better” features. These competitors are just innovating on different things.

By: gitoffmenuts_google

gitoffmenuts_google — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:31:00 +0000

I LOVE TO CBONE! My favorite ACTIVITY…. Where do you usually take a CBONE? Your back or front?

By: TheRealCBONE

TheRealCBONE — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:15:00 +0000

Good luck to any company that wants to use a minimalist industrial design because Apple will sue you like they invented it rather than popularized it recently. Introduce some weird, jarring elements that no one will like just to be safe.

By: Wayne McKenzie

Wayne McKenzie — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:14:00 +0000

What Ives was apparently too polite to mention is that there is a third design method competitors use after “doing something different, or want(ing) to appear new”, that is, slavishly copying Apple’s designs.

By: Rezn91

Rezn91 — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:12:00 +0000

This is far from a “Blast,” on anyone. C’mon slash, don’t resort to these kind of tactics to try and get clicks.