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	<title>Comments on: Apple ties up 60% of touch panel supplies for 2011 iPad 2 tip insiders</title>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While it is true that some plants can increase productivity by things like adding machinery and more personnel, the premise that you&#039;re missing is that all the current plants are already at full capacity.   Remember Apple went from 0 to 14 million shipped units in the space of less than a year.  Any company making capacitive glass screens would have had to ramp up production significantly.  Now more tablets are coming onto the market. 

As you pointed out, manufacturers can still add more personnel, add more machinery, build a new plant; however, the later two are not quick solutions.  They may take more than a few months.  Building a new plant for example can take up to a year depending on conditions.  Adding personnel is the quickest but it still takes time to train personnel.

As the article stated, Apple has locked in a certain a number of units through contracts already.  Those manufacturers if at full capacity may not have an easy time increasing capacity.  Thus Apple has locked down 60% of the market.  This isn&#039;t the first time Apple has done this.  They locked down their supply of Flash RAM in a similar fashion.  And Apple isn&#039;t the only company to hedge their bets by buying a supply years in advance.  Southwest Airlines made a great deal of profit by buying their jet fuel years in advance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is true that some plants can increase productivity by things like adding machinery and more personnel, the premise that you&#8217;re missing is that all the current plants are already at full capacity.   Remember Apple went from 0 to 14 million shipped units in the space of less than a year.  Any company making capacitive glass screens would have had to ramp up production significantly.  Now more tablets are coming onto the market. </p>
<p>As you pointed out, manufacturers can still add more personnel, add more machinery, build a new plant; however, the later two are not quick solutions.  They may take more than a few months.  Building a new plant for example can take up to a year depending on conditions.  Adding personnel is the quickest but it still takes time to train personnel.</p>
<p>As the article stated, Apple has locked in a certain a number of units through contracts already.  Those manufacturers if at full capacity may not have an easy time increasing capacity.  Thus Apple has locked down 60% of the market.  This isn&#8217;t the first time Apple has done this.  They locked down their supply of Flash RAM in a similar fashion.  And Apple isn&#8217;t the only company to hedge their bets by buying a supply years in advance.  Southwest Airlines made a great deal of profit by buying their jet fuel years in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: lemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, this is not surprising, just reveal the expanding use of iPad and iPhone!
Great, I believe the Apple will expand into more, just like the Mac App Store now is permeate through to all the Mac users, you can easily find the apps you want such as iFunia video converter pro in the Mac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, this is not surprising, just reveal the expanding use of iPad and iPhone!<br />
Great, I believe the Apple will expand into more, just like the Mac App Store now is permeate through to all the Mac users, you can easily find the apps you want such as iFunia video converter pro in the Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: lemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, this is not surprising, just reveal the expanding use of iPad and iPhone!
Great, I believe the Apple will expand into more, just like the Mac App Store now is permeate through to all the Mac users, you can easily find the apps you want such as iFunia video converter pro in the Mac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, this is not surprising, just reveal the expanding use of iPad and iPhone!<br />
Great, I believe the Apple will expand into more, just like the Mac App Store now is permeate through to all the Mac users, you can easily find the apps you want such as iFunia video converter pro in the Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am wondering what the iPad will be like. :) 
No matter what iPad 2 will be like, but we can sure that it will be better than the first generation, we have to do is waiting and waiting for its final appearance!  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aneesoft.com/tutorials/ipad/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iPad tips here.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering what the iPad will be like. :)<br />
No matter what iPad 2 will be like, but we can sure that it will be better than the first generation, we have to do is waiting and waiting for its final appearance!  <a href="http://www.aneesoft.com/tutorials/ipad/index.html" rel="nofollow">iPad tips here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, issues much? You had a whopping two replies to read before you posted your stupid ass comment, that really took you ten minutes, are you a second grader?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, issues much? You had a whopping two replies to read before you posted your stupid ass comment, that really took you ten minutes, are you a second grader?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, issues much? You had a whopping two replies to read before you posted your stupid ass comment, that really took you ten minutes, are you a second grader?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, issues much? You had a whopping two replies to read before you posted your stupid ass comment, that really took you ten minutes, are you a second grader?</p>
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		<title>By: TechGenius101</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechGenius101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really, this is very important stuff. What I can&#039;t understand is how everyone has overlooked the impact of SOLAR FLARES on factory production numbers, as a result of the psychological impact on workers....duhhhh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, this is very important stuff. What I can&#8217;t understand is how everyone has overlooked the impact of SOLAR FLARES on factory production numbers, as a result of the psychological impact on workers&#8230;.duhhhh</p>
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		<title>By: Joobyjoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joobyjoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seriously can&#039;t believe i&#039;ve wasted ten minutes of my life reading everyones view on what most agree is a pointless article.  And what is even funnier is you are all wrong!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously can&#8217;t believe i&#8217;ve wasted ten minutes of my life reading everyones view on what most agree is a pointless article.  And what is even funnier is you are all wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Joobyjoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joobyjoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[woopy dooo. Who cares?????
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woopy dooo. Who cares?????</p>
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		<title>By: TxCoder</title>
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		<dc:creator>TxCoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Wrong again,
It is possible to know percentages of supply when you (Apple) has a good record of what has been produced for the market in the recent past. ie: Flash Ram, etc. They know how many units they want to produce thus the amount of &quot;raw&quot; materials needed, in this case it&#039;s touch screens. So, I&#039;m sure Apple has &quot;sourced&quot; shopped around enough to know what the capacities are from the current Fab facilities.

@Kamoku

I agree - regarding &quot;knowing&quot; the numbers of capacity in which the Fab(s) can manufacture and in what timeframe. Plus the percentage of failure in the parts coming down the production line... Apple has these non-disclosed numbers because they have been purchasing the maximum amount for these touch screens starting with their iphones &amp; ipods. The sizes are different for their iPads however, they can easily project the scale of what has been produces in the past to what can be done for them in the future, Especially if Apple are the ones who&#039;s building (or at least investing into) the future Fabrication facility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Wrong again,<br />
It is possible to know percentages of supply when you (Apple) has a good record of what has been produced for the market in the recent past. ie: Flash Ram, etc. They know how many units they want to produce thus the amount of &#8220;raw&#8221; materials needed, in this case it&#8217;s touch screens. So, I&#8217;m sure Apple has &#8220;sourced&#8221; shopped around enough to know what the capacities are from the current Fab facilities.</p>
<p>@Kamoku</p>
<p>I agree &#8211; regarding &#8220;knowing&#8221; the numbers of capacity in which the Fab(s) can manufacture and in what timeframe. Plus the percentage of failure in the parts coming down the production line&#8230; Apple has these non-disclosed numbers because they have been purchasing the maximum amount for these touch screens starting with their iphones &amp; ipods. The sizes are different for their iPads however, they can easily project the scale of what has been produces in the past to what can be done for them in the future, Especially if Apple are the ones who&#8217;s building (or at least investing into) the future Fabrication facility.</p>
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		<title>By: guzzriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>guzzriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it would be even nicer to see people like you not bitching all the time.  Get a life!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be even nicer to see people like you not bitching all the time.  Get a life!</p>
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		<title>By: wrong again</title>
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		<dc:creator>wrong again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your argument, while possibly pragmatically correct, rests on the assumption that a facility is incapable of increasing its total output, and therefore a new manufacturing plant is required before an increase in output can be obtained as does the original analysis.

There are many ways in which increased output can be achieved quickly without building another manufacturing plant--increased work force, added machinery to current plant, new techniques that increase production, etc. Most companies have expansion built into their current production environments. To do otherwise would be very short sited.

Therefore determining a maximum global production capacity is generally a guess based on current production levels as you state in your second paragraph. This is also why we see shortages that last for only a few months because, companies can adapt quickly to demand. 

Furthermore, if Apple did purchase a percentage of production all the manufacturer has to do is increase that production and Apple would have excess stock and be on the hook for the cost. Apple is NOT that stupid, no company is. That is why they purchase a quantity and not a percentage of overall production.

The analysis of the original article is only trying to stir hype, typical Apple hype, by making things sound other than they are. This is nothing more than standard practice for companies, especially large companies. They purchase large quantities and companies then adjust their overall production to compensate, it is NOT a percentage of the overall market. Percentages in articles like this are only used to stir hype--Apple will sell 60% of all capacitive touch devices in 2011, etc. . . which isn&#039;t even close to accurate.

The analysis should simply state, Apple is spending $7.9 billion on x, y, and z.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your argument, while possibly pragmatically correct, rests on the assumption that a facility is incapable of increasing its total output, and therefore a new manufacturing plant is required before an increase in output can be obtained as does the original analysis.</p>
<p>There are many ways in which increased output can be achieved quickly without building another manufacturing plant&#8211;increased work force, added machinery to current plant, new techniques that increase production, etc. Most companies have expansion built into their current production environments. To do otherwise would be very short sited.</p>
<p>Therefore determining a maximum global production capacity is generally a guess based on current production levels as you state in your second paragraph. This is also why we see shortages that last for only a few months because, companies can adapt quickly to demand. </p>
<p>Furthermore, if Apple did purchase a percentage of production all the manufacturer has to do is increase that production and Apple would have excess stock and be on the hook for the cost. Apple is NOT that stupid, no company is. That is why they purchase a quantity and not a percentage of overall production.</p>
<p>The analysis of the original article is only trying to stir hype, typical Apple hype, by making things sound other than they are. This is nothing more than standard practice for companies, especially large companies. They purchase large quantities and companies then adjust their overall production to compensate, it is NOT a percentage of the overall market. Percentages in articles like this are only used to stir hype&#8211;Apple will sell 60% of all capacitive touch devices in 2011, etc. . . which isn&#8217;t even close to accurate.</p>
<p>The analysis should simply state, Apple is spending $7.9 billion on x, y, and z.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfectly put, good job!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly put, good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfectly put, good job!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly put, good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfectly put, good job!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly put, good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfectly put, good job!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly put, good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Kamoku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamoku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not QUITE as ridiculous as you might think.  The facility out of which a particular product is produced is only capable of a maximum capacity for that product.  After that capacity has been exceeded, a new facility must be brought into the fold.  So it is possible to determine a maximum global production capacity for a particular product within a certain time span.

Now the part that leads to skepticism is that the writer of the article assumes he knows about the capacity of every single facility that is capable of producing the touch panel supply mentioned at the beginning.  Additionally, I doubt that all of these facilities would be willing to release information about whether Apple has secured any of its production capacity.  Without all of those numbers confirmed, 60% is just a guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not QUITE as ridiculous as you might think.  The facility out of which a particular product is produced is only capable of a maximum capacity for that product.  After that capacity has been exceeded, a new facility must be brought into the fold.  So it is possible to determine a maximum global production capacity for a particular product within a certain time span.</p>
<p>Now the part that leads to skepticism is that the writer of the article assumes he knows about the capacity of every single facility that is capable of producing the touch panel supply mentioned at the beginning.  Additionally, I doubt that all of these facilities would be willing to release information about whether Apple has secured any of its production capacity.  Without all of those numbers confirmed, 60% is just a guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamoku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamoku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not QUITE as ridiculous as you might think.  The facility out of which a particular product is produced is only capable of a maximum capacity for that product.  After that capacity has been exceeded, a new facility must be brought into the fold.  So it is possible to determine a maximum global production capacity for a particular product within a certain time span.

Now the part that leads to skepticism is that the writer of the article assumes he knows about the capacity of every single facility that is capable of producing the touch panel supply mentioned at the beginning.  Additionally, I doubt that all of these facilities would be willing to release information about whether Apple has secured any of its production capacity.  Without all of those numbers confirmed, 60% is just a guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not QUITE as ridiculous as you might think.  The facility out of which a particular product is produced is only capable of a maximum capacity for that product.  After that capacity has been exceeded, a new facility must be brought into the fold.  So it is possible to determine a maximum global production capacity for a particular product within a certain time span.</p>
<p>Now the part that leads to skepticism is that the writer of the article assumes he knows about the capacity of every single facility that is capable of producing the touch panel supply mentioned at the beginning.  Additionally, I doubt that all of these facilities would be willing to release information about whether Apple has secured any of its production capacity.  Without all of those numbers confirmed, 60% is just a guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Wrong again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wrong again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article floating around the net stating that Apple is buying up X% of supply is ridiculous. It&#039;s impossible to buy up a certain percentage of something in advance--it hasn&#039;t been produced. They can only contract with companies for a certain amount, defined in numbers not percentages. If the overall demand is then greater than companies can supply they will adjust and produce more, thus saying Apple is buying up X% is false. They are only buying a certain quantity.

It would be nice if some of the tech writers would get a clue and think a little before regurgitating these ridiculous stories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article floating around the net stating that Apple is buying up X% of supply is ridiculous. It&#8217;s impossible to buy up a certain percentage of something in advance&#8211;it hasn&#8217;t been produced. They can only contract with companies for a certain amount, defined in numbers not percentages. If the overall demand is then greater than companies can supply they will adjust and produce more, thus saying Apple is buying up X% is false. They are only buying a certain quantity.</p>
<p>It would be nice if some of the tech writers would get a clue and think a little before regurgitating these ridiculous stories.</p>
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