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	<title>Comments on: Apple made to specify design alternatives for Samsung</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. Leo</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-166319</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Apple keeps this up, Samsung will wise up and stop supplying the components that they make for the iPhone.  Apple will go down and become a little niche market player like they used to be and you idiot sheep will be back at 5% of the market where you should be.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple keeps this up, Samsung will wise up and stop supplying the components that they make for the iPhone.  Apple will go down and become a little niche market player like they used to be and you idiot sheep will be back at 5% of the market where you should be.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-165789</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samsung should come out with the &quot;Samsung Quadagon (aka The Granny Smith)&quot; just
 to spite Apple. There you go bastards. It&#039;s not rectangular. It&#039;s a 
fucking square. WTF.And when the GPS senses its location to be Cupertino, the device should cease functioning and turn itself off immediately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung should come out with the &#8220;Samsung Quadagon (aka The Granny Smith)&#8221; just<br />
 to spite Apple. There you go bastards. It&#8217;s not rectangular. It&#8217;s a<br />
fucking square. WTF.And when the GPS senses its location to be Cupertino, the device should cease functioning and turn itself off immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: DefTaker</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-160584</link>
		<dc:creator>DefTaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newer cars are getting some good mileage.  30+ City/40+ Hwy is great mileage compared to what we had a few years ago.  Or are you stating that great mileage can only be defined by 90+ MPG?  

Again, Apple would sue anyone that creates a product that might be deemed &quot;better&quot; than what they offer.  Apple&#039;s demands are ridiculous and I&#039;m glad to see that the higher courts are overruling the previous verdicts. 

Why hasn&#039;t Apple gone after other all-in-one computer makers such as HP, Dell, Compaq, etc. for stealing intellectual design and property of their iMac series?  Because, those systems aren&#039;t selling well enough to threaten their iMac sales.  The fact that they&#039;re so doggedly pursuing Samsung tells me that they&#039;re afraid of losing ground to Samsung.  

The funny thing is, if you want an Apple product, you simply look for the Apple logo.  It&#039;s not like Samsung&#039;s sticking Apple logos on their product.  Anyone can tell a non-Apple product from an Apple product. 

To claim that their design was &quot;slavishly copied&quot; is not only a gross misstatement but an obvious lie. 

 Either way, I&#039;ll be glad when all these companies stop suing each other (especially the patent trolls that keep popping up out of the wood works every other day now) and start building tech that the consumers want.  Let the consumers decide - we&#039;ll buy what we want, not because we&#039;re told to purchase something because no other competition can exist!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newer cars are getting some good mileage.  30+ City/40+ Hwy is great mileage compared to what we had a few years ago.  Or are you stating that great mileage can only be defined by 90+ MPG?  </p>
<p>Again, Apple would sue anyone that creates a product that might be deemed &#8220;better&#8221; than what they offer.  Apple&#8217;s demands are ridiculous and I&#8217;m glad to see that the higher courts are overruling the previous verdicts. </p>
<p>Why hasn&#8217;t Apple gone after other all-in-one computer makers such as HP, Dell, Compaq, etc. for stealing intellectual design and property of their iMac series?  Because, those systems aren&#8217;t selling well enough to threaten their iMac sales.  The fact that they&#8217;re so doggedly pursuing Samsung tells me that they&#8217;re afraid of losing ground to Samsung.  </p>
<p>The funny thing is, if you want an Apple product, you simply look for the Apple logo.  It&#8217;s not like Samsung&#8217;s sticking Apple logos on their product.  Anyone can tell a non-Apple product from an Apple product. </p>
<p>To claim that their design was &#8220;slavishly copied&#8221; is not only a gross misstatement but an obvious lie. </p>
<p> Either way, I&#8217;ll be glad when all these companies stop suing each other (especially the patent trolls that keep popping up out of the wood works every other day now) and start building tech that the consumers want.  Let the consumers decide &#8211; we&#8217;ll buy what we want, not because we&#8217;re told to purchase something because no other competition can exist!</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Timbs</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-160006</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Timbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for all the folks saying the Ipad&#039;s design was revolutionary, I say it was evolutionary.  It wasn&#039;t until the Cortex A8 came out that mobile processors were even remotely considered &quot;beefy&quot;.  Before Ipad, all tablets had to be clunky due to them requiring x86 processors.  Because they required x86, all of them required Windows (no fanboys remember microsoft&#039;s Origami project with UMPCs).  


I say apple road the evolutionary gravy train by joining in on the first wave of ARM based tablets.  Because they were ARM, they didn&#039;t have to be thick and clunky.  also, because they were ARM, they could use smaller batteries and use better screens, since they did not have to worry about x86 heat wrecking the screen.  The rectangular slate form had already been in use by compaq for years, but never caught on due to windows xp  and vista sucking on a touchscreen only device.  Apple&#039;s OS was touch based from the get go, so they could run with the slate style with no regrets.
They managed to get the Ipad out and steal the thunder of many a different manufacturer, as the others such as Crunchpad, NotionInk, and such lacked the warchest of apple to develop as fast.  Also, most competition wanted to wait till the cortex a9 was in higher circulation before releasing.  the Only manufacturers that managed to get into the fray other then apple and stand a chance was Samsung, HP (palm),  and Barnes&amp;noble(though they weren&#039;t technically a tablet).  HP screwed the pooch and ended up getting the touchpad delayed for a long time, eventually making it pathetic against motorola and company.  Barnes &amp; Noble stuck to their game and have made bank.  And then we have Samsung.

As this market grows though, and the second wave of tablet adoption takes place, apple will be in serious trouble, as they don&#039;t innovate nearly as fast as their competition, and risk getting blown away if google will start leveraging it&#039;s muscle.

these lawsuits are the same stuff they tried to do against microsoft, and that ended in a complete disaster.  This is why I think that apple is trying so hard to bring down samsung, else history will repeat and apple will loose the momentum they have had since the success of the IPod.   If apple rebrands itself into a lifestyle company and decides to go the way of Prada, Gucci, and Rolex, that is the only way I can see it surviving as a company.  There is too much money to be made and if their competition was to seriously attempt it, they could cause alot of hurt to the fruit company (like cutting off chip shipments, not licencing new tech, poaching employees, and various other forms of blackballing.

TLDR version:  Apple has been riding the evolutionary coattails of tech and risks becoming irrelevant again once the next paradigm shift in tech happens again.  they are using the legal system to keep the gravy train rolling. If they want to survive, completing their transition to a form of fashion brand for consumer electronics is the only way forward. Other wise the competition will eventually eat their lunch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for all the folks saying the Ipad&#8217;s design was revolutionary, I say it was evolutionary.  It wasn&#8217;t until the Cortex A8 came out that mobile processors were even remotely considered &#8220;beefy&#8221;.  Before Ipad, all tablets had to be clunky due to them requiring x86 processors.  Because they required x86, all of them required Windows (no fanboys remember microsoft&#8217;s Origami project with UMPCs).  </p>
<p>I say apple road the evolutionary gravy train by joining in on the first wave of ARM based tablets.  Because they were ARM, they didn&#8217;t have to be thick and clunky.  also, because they were ARM, they could use smaller batteries and use better screens, since they did not have to worry about x86 heat wrecking the screen.  The rectangular slate form had already been in use by compaq for years, but never caught on due to windows xp  and vista sucking on a touchscreen only device.  Apple&#8217;s OS was touch based from the get go, so they could run with the slate style with no regrets.<br />
They managed to get the Ipad out and steal the thunder of many a different manufacturer, as the others such as Crunchpad, NotionInk, and such lacked the warchest of apple to develop as fast.  Also, most competition wanted to wait till the cortex a9 was in higher circulation before releasing.  the Only manufacturers that managed to get into the fray other then apple and stand a chance was Samsung, HP (palm),  and Barnes&amp;noble(though they weren&#8217;t technically a tablet).  HP screwed the pooch and ended up getting the touchpad delayed for a long time, eventually making it pathetic against motorola and company.  Barnes &amp; Noble stuck to their game and have made bank.  And then we have Samsung.</p>
<p>As this market grows though, and the second wave of tablet adoption takes place, apple will be in serious trouble, as they don&#8217;t innovate nearly as fast as their competition, and risk getting blown away if google will start leveraging it&#8217;s muscle.</p>
<p>these lawsuits are the same stuff they tried to do against microsoft, and that ended in a complete disaster.  This is why I think that apple is trying so hard to bring down samsung, else history will repeat and apple will loose the momentum they have had since the success of the IPod.   If apple rebrands itself into a lifestyle company and decides to go the way of Prada, Gucci, and Rolex, that is the only way I can see it surviving as a company.  There is too much money to be made and if their competition was to seriously attempt it, they could cause alot of hurt to the fruit company (like cutting off chip shipments, not licencing new tech, poaching employees, and various other forms of blackballing.</p>
<p>TLDR version:  Apple has been riding the evolutionary coattails of tech and risks becoming irrelevant again once the next paradigm shift in tech happens again.  they are using the legal system to keep the gravy train rolling. If they want to survive, completing their transition to a form of fashion brand for consumer electronics is the only way forward. Other wise the competition will eventually eat their lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Futuremon</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159917</link>
		<dc:creator>Futuremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve known this for years...and have refused to buy Apple products ever since the Apple ][e.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve known this for years&#8230;and have refused to buy Apple products ever since the Apple ][e.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Macleod</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159697</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Macleod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samsung can&#039;t make a hexagonal shaped tablet with rounded corners?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung can&#8217;t make a hexagonal shaped tablet with rounded corners?</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Macleod</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159696</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Macleod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeahhh can&#039;t wait for round tablets!! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeahhh can&#8217;t wait for round tablets!! </p>
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		<title>By: Sayonara</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159682</link>
		<dc:creator>Sayonara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple = Soooo F*CKing Stooooopid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple = Soooo F*CKing Stooooopid.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159637</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, to see the same thing with even more clarity, Event Horizon. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, to see the same thing with even more clarity, Event Horizon. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159519</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah. It sounds like it&#039;s going to get really really desperate now for Apple. I have no doubt where they&#039;re headed - oblivion.

This is the most ridiculous, stupid, moronic stuff I&#039;ve heard from Apple yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. It sounds like it&#8217;s going to get really really desperate now for Apple. I have no doubt where they&#8217;re headed &#8211; oblivion.</p>
<p>This is the most ridiculous, stupid, moronic stuff I&#8217;ve heard from Apple yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159517</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We Indians would sue the f*** out of Apple for that.. we invented it! :p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Indians would sue the f*** out of Apple for that.. we invented it! :p</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159514</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the dumbest troll-face comment of the day goes to... ^^^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the dumbest troll-face comment of the day goes to&#8230; ^^^</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159508</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, do I get an apology?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, do I get an apology?</p>
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		<title>By: 1001</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159478</link>
		<dc:creator>1001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Careful.  There might be an app for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful.  There might be an app for that.</p>
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		<title>By: 1001</title>
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		<dc:creator>1001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CORRECTION, MARTIN.  


The  Samsung&#039;s legal rep could not tell them apart in court WHEN UNPOWERED, AT A GLANCE FROM A DISTANCE.Arguably, the same could be said of ALL current ARM-based tablets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION, MARTIN.  </p>
<p>The  Samsung&#8217;s legal rep could not tell them apart in court WHEN UNPOWERED, AT A GLANCE FROM A DISTANCE.Arguably, the same could be said of ALL current ARM-based tablets.</p>
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		<title>By: 1001</title>
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		<dc:creator>1001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What martin was referring to is a ruse set up by Apple Attorneys involving two UNPOWERED TABLETS.  One being the iPad2, the other being a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1


Of the two, the attorney, who had not seen or looked at either before, was asked to glance and tell the difference.

She couldn&#039;t.  Granted, it was at a glance from a fairly distant area. THIS IS WHAT MARTIN LEAVES OUT.  See, if you put a Sony, an LG, a Samsung and a Panasonic TV of the same distance at a glance?  The chance is great that you&#039;re not going to pick them out from a distance either.

Either way?  There are distinguishable differences between both tablets.  ESPECIALLY WHEN POWERED ON.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What martin was referring to is a ruse set up by Apple Attorneys involving two UNPOWERED TABLETS.  One being the iPad2, the other being a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1</p>
<p>Of the two, the attorney, who had not seen or looked at either before, was asked to glance and tell the difference.</p>
<p>She couldn&#8217;t.  Granted, it was at a glance from a fairly distant area. THIS IS WHAT MARTIN LEAVES OUT.  See, if you put a Sony, an LG, a Samsung and a Panasonic TV of the same distance at a glance?  The chance is great that you&#8217;re not going to pick them out from a distance either.</p>
<p>Either way?  There are distinguishable differences between both tablets.  ESPECIALLY WHEN POWERED ON.</p>
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		<title>By: 1001</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159473</link>
		<dc:creator>1001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Game.  Set.  Match.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Game.  Set.  Match.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159452</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really shouldn&#039;t accuse people of lying. Do a Google search and you&#039;ll find the case. 
Martin Turner
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really shouldn&#8217;t accuse people of lying. Do a Google search and you&#8217;ll find the case.<br />
Martin Turner<br />
07753 683 337</p>
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		<title>By: Raygun</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159435</link>
		<dc:creator>Raygun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 05:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t take people who stick up for Apple, serious anymore. It is one thing to support a company you believe in, but if you support what Apple is doing right now, your head is screwed on wrong. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t take people who stick up for Apple, serious anymore. It is one thing to support a company you believe in, but if you support what Apple is doing right now, your head is screwed on wrong. </p>
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		<title>By: Maxx</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159421</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple is a troll of rectangular shape. Did Apple thinks that they invented Rectangle or round corner. Fucking rubbish]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple is a troll of rectangular shape. Did Apple thinks that they invented Rectangle or round corner. Fucking rubbish</p>
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		<title>By: Schmitzelschmatz</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159417</link>
		<dc:creator>Schmitzelschmatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, sure, the ipad was the first tablet ... NOT.

Tablets just had more functions and possibilities before the iPad came out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, sure, the ipad was the first tablet &#8230; NOT.</p>
<p>Tablets just had more functions and possibilities before the iPad came out!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Tietjens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Tietjens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odd. Last time I looked, there was a fairly large Apple logo on the back of the iPad.Lawyers (other than Daredevil) are rarely blind.
 Ergo, I conclude you&#039;re lying. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd. Last time I looked, there was a fairly large Apple logo on the back of the iPad.Lawyers (other than Daredevil) are rarely blind.<br />
 Ergo, I conclude you&#8217;re lying. </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Tietjens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Tietjens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously? You think judges are stupid for telling Apple to go away and come back when they have a *serious* complaint? What kind of dope are you taking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? You think judges are stupid for telling Apple to go away and come back when they have a *serious* complaint? What kind of dope are you taking?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Tietjens</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159403</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Tietjens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Must be hard to breathe with your nose shoved so far up a dead guy&#039;s behind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be hard to breathe with your nose shoved so far up a dead guy&#8217;s behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Tietjens</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159402</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Tietjens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 02:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest Apple shove their products - all of them, simultaneously - into what is normally considered an exit-only orifice. Sideways. With carborundum for &quot;lube.&quot;

These lawsuits have convinced me to boycott all Apple products, and to continue to oppose deployment of Apple products in the company where I hold part ownership. As someone who is frequently consulted for technical advice, I will advise people to avoid Apple products, as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest Apple shove their products &#8211; all of them, simultaneously &#8211; into what is normally considered an exit-only orifice. Sideways. With carborundum for &#8220;lube.&#8221;</p>
<p>These lawsuits have convinced me to boycott all Apple products, and to continue to oppose deployment of Apple products in the company where I hold part ownership. As someone who is frequently consulted for technical advice, I will advise people to avoid Apple products, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Silverwind2007</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159359</link>
		<dc:creator>Silverwind2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha ha ha.....  This is really BS...... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha&#8230;..  This is really BS&#8230;&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Market not product. ]]></description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No- Apple didn&#039;t make a product out of thin air. Apple wanted to create a tablet computing experience but put their aesthetics on it- their answer was the iPad. They knew however, contrary to what other manufacturer&#039;s thought, that a tablet should run a mobile OS and not a full OS- until technology allows for a rich OS on a tablet device where performance is not hindered. Other manufacturers had Windows tablets- Apple made the iPad. They&#039;re both tablets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No- Apple didn&#8217;t make a product out of thin air. Apple wanted to create a tablet computing experience but put their aesthetics on it- their answer was the iPad. They knew however, contrary to what other manufacturer&#8217;s thought, that a tablet should run a mobile OS and not a full OS- until technology allows for a rich OS on a tablet device where performance is not hindered. Other manufacturers had Windows tablets- Apple made the iPad. They&#8217;re both tablets.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The iPad or iPad 2? The Xoom is fat as hell compared to the iPad 2. Samsung was the only company smart enough to go back and release a competitive product. 2012 will be nothing but thin Android tablets. You think Apple&#039;s going to ignore that? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPad or iPad 2? The Xoom is fat as hell compared to the iPad 2. Samsung was the only company smart enough to go back and release a competitive product. 2012 will be nothing but thin Android tablets. You think Apple&#8217;s going to ignore that? </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple made a market out of essentially thin air. Everyone else is trying to make a competitive product for the market they created. Wouldn&#039;t make any sense to make a fat ugly tablet to try to get a piece of it. If you were making a tablet, wouldn&#039;t you&#039;re tablet be similar to what everyone else is making? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple made a market out of essentially thin air. Everyone else is trying to make a competitive product for the market they created. Wouldn&#8217;t make any sense to make a fat ugly tablet to try to get a piece of it. If you were making a tablet, wouldn&#8217;t you&#8217;re tablet be similar to what everyone else is making? </p>
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		<title>By: Vinícius Manjabosco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinícius Manjabosco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apples Intellectual Proprety was made by Captain Obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apples Intellectual Proprety was made by Captain Obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: First Name</title>
		<link>http://www.slashgear.com/apple-made-to-specify-design-alternatives-for-samsung-02199756/#comment-159328</link>
		<dc:creator>First Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MartinTurner:disqus 
You said that Apple&#039;s patent was valid in spite of 2001&#039;s tablet concept because NASA landing on the moon was &quot;valid&quot; in spite of From Earth to Moon. I responded that it was irrelevant because NASA wasn&#039;t trying to prove that they had a unique idea with &quot;landing on the moon&quot;.

You can change the focus of the discussion by redirecting but it doesn&#039;t make you right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MartinTurner:disqus<br />
You said that Apple&#8217;s patent was valid in spite of 2001&#8242;s tablet concept because NASA landing on the moon was &#8220;valid&#8221; in spite of From Earth to Moon. I responded that it was irrelevant because NASA wasn&#8217;t trying to prove that they had a unique idea with &#8220;landing on the moon&#8221;.</p>
<p>You can change the focus of the discussion by redirecting but it doesn&#8217;t make you right.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice try. Actually there were thousands of patents for spin off technologies from the moon shot. 
Martin Turner
07753 683 337]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try. Actually there were thousands of patents for spin off technologies from the moon shot.<br />
Martin Turner<br />
07753 683 337</p>
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		<title>By: First Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>First Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MartinTurner:disqus 
I don&#039;t know how it is in the UK but in the US part of patent law is the principle requirement of &quot;non-obviousness&quot;. The iPad patent in question fails this in every possible way.

For one, prior art exists exhibiting the patent&#039;s primary goals (43 years prior!), and for two, when a device being designed consists of a giant LCD and the overriding goal is to exploit that to its logical conclusion there&#039;s only a couple ways you can make it. Case in point, look at LCD monitors! For the better part of a decade they&#039;ve looked like the iPad (small bezel, black plastic, minimal branding, minimal physical user input). If they were patenting the concept of a tablet, it would be entirely different (and again, anyone could point to 2001: A Space Odyssey for prior art nullifying the non-obviousness of the claim) but they patented the design!

Fundamentally, this is an attempt to own the /concept/ of a tablet computer through their patent on the /design/ of a tablet computer. The fact that Apple is arguing on the basis of color of plastic just goes to prove how ridiculous this is in the first place ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MartinTurner:disqus<br />
I don&#8217;t know how it is in the UK but in the US part of patent law is the principle requirement of &#8220;non-obviousness&#8221;. The iPad patent in question fails this in every possible way.</p>
<p>For one, prior art exists exhibiting the patent&#8217;s primary goals (43 years prior!), and for two, when a device being designed consists of a giant LCD and the overriding goal is to exploit that to its logical conclusion there&#8217;s only a couple ways you can make it. Case in point, look at LCD monitors! For the better part of a decade they&#8217;ve looked like the iPad (small bezel, black plastic, minimal branding, minimal physical user input). If they were patenting the concept of a tablet, it would be entirely different (and again, anyone could point to 2001: A Space Odyssey for prior art nullifying the non-obviousness of the claim) but they patented the design!</p>
<p>Fundamentally, this is an attempt to own the /concept/ of a tablet computer through their patent on the /design/ of a tablet computer. The fact that Apple is arguing on the basis of color of plastic just goes to prove how ridiculous this is in the first place </p>
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		<title>By: Maria Fe Camaya O'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Fe Camaya O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The change Samsung made was to the version sold in Germany. The rules they and Austrailia have are ripe for explotation. Thats why Apple went to these markets, it&#039;s there best shot at some form of success. Thankfully most other nations will not permit a ban so easily and Apple will be forced to try and explain in court how it is that they own the rectangle, round corners ect.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The change Samsung made was to the version sold in Germany. The rules they and Austrailia have are ripe for explotation. Thats why Apple went to these markets, it&#8217;s there best shot at some form of success. Thankfully most other nations will not permit a ban so easily and Apple will be forced to try and explain in court how it is that they own the rectangle, round corners ect.</p>
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		<title>By: First Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>First Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me know when NASA tries to get a patent for that and then we&#039;ll talk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me know when NASA tries to get a patent for that and then we&#8217;ll talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Resorting to insult is not the mark of rational thought.
On your substantive point, Apple is not going after Samsung because of supposed improvements, but because the devices were indistinguishable. Samsung&#039;s legal rep could not tell them apart in court. Motorola&#039;s device, by contrast, was obviously different and Apple did not complain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resorting to insult is not the mark of rational thought.<br />
On your substantive point, Apple is not going after Samsung because of supposed improvements, but because the devices were indistinguishable. Samsung&#8217;s legal rep could not tell them apart in court. Motorola&#8217;s device, by contrast, was obviously different and Apple did not complain.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You cannot deny that every tablet design proposed before the iPad looked like a fat piece of garbage. I remember them very well. I even wanted one. But at the time, I couldn&#039;t help but wonder why they had to look so ugly- and definitely screamed GEEK! The iPad did revolutionize the design AND market for tablet devices.

What I didn&#039;t say however, is that they should own that design. While the iPad paved the way for tablets, I don&#039;t think that they should be awarded bans due to its outside appearance (to a certain extent). Their suggestions on how to make other tablets less iPad like are flat out ridiculous- and funny. 

And once more, just to clarify- Apple didn&#039;t create the tablet- but they were the first to make any money off of it, popularize it, design it beautifully, and make a real use for tablets. Tablets before the iPad (numbering in only a few models) were big, ugly, overpriced, underpowered, and focused mainly on stylus input.

Check this out to see what I mean.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/18/tablet-design-before-after-the-ipad/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot deny that every tablet design proposed before the iPad looked like a fat piece of garbage. I remember them very well. I even wanted one. But at the time, I couldn&#8217;t help but wonder why they had to look so ugly- and definitely screamed GEEK! The iPad did revolutionize the design AND market for tablet devices.</p>
<p>What I didn&#8217;t say however, is that they should own that design. While the iPad paved the way for tablets, I don&#8217;t think that they should be awarded bans due to its outside appearance (to a certain extent). Their suggestions on how to make other tablets less iPad like are flat out ridiculous- and funny. </p>
<p>And once more, just to clarify- Apple didn&#8217;t create the tablet- but they were the first to make any money off of it, popularize it, design it beautifully, and make a real use for tablets. Tablets before the iPad (numbering in only a few models) were big, ugly, overpriced, underpowered, and focused mainly on stylus input.</p>
<p>Check this out to see what I mean.<br />
<a href="http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/18/tablet-design-before-after-the-ipad/" rel="nofollow">http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/18/tablet-design-before-after-the-ipad/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This shows that without Jobs, the management and staff are completely clueless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shows that without Jobs, the management and staff are completely clueless.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; And it seems like Samsung has already begun making some of these changes by releasing a new Galaxy Tab 10.1N version that includes thicker vertical frames that slightly protrude from the screen. &quot;

Why did samsung aleady implement some of these changes, Apple doesnt own the rectangle or what ever crap they demanded...after these claims the judge should have punted Apples&#039;s lawers n representatives, not once but thrice and shouted...hold on, thats 3-strikes, U R Out...

WTF this judge cant understand apples greed....he too needs a 3-strike, U Out strategy...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; And it seems like Samsung has already begun making some of these changes by releasing a new Galaxy Tab 10.1N version that includes thicker vertical frames that slightly protrude from the screen. &#8221;</p>
<p>Why did samsung aleady implement some of these changes, Apple doesnt own the rectangle or what ever crap they demanded&#8230;after these claims the judge should have punted Apples&#8217;s lawers n representatives, not once but thrice and shouted&#8230;hold on, thats 3-strikes, U R Out&#8230;</p>
<p>WTF this judge cant understand apples greed&#8230;.he too needs a 3-strike, U Out strategy&#8230;</p>
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