Comments on: AMD says Xbox 720 to have graphics with Avatar levels of detail

By: Daniel Luplow

Daniel Luplow — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:14:00 +0000

1) AMD’s card may be a HD 6670, but it’s by no means the card you see in your computer. It’s optimized for use in a gaming console. Also, the 6670 is actually a design specification for card builders to build from. AMD designs the card, sells the specs, and MSI XFX and other graphics cards manufacturers build them. That’s why the 6670 can ship with different core clock speeds, types of ram, etc. As long as it fits the spec sheet the manufacturer can call it a 6670.

That said, expect a graphics card much smaller in size that is far less power demanding and optimized for a small case. They get away with large cards 1 for marketing (bigger stick) and 2 they assume custom builders will use a full-size/mid-size tower that can hold the larger card. (bigger is easier to build/mass produce).

2) as Jalexoid said, developers can optimize their programming specifically for the hardware. Right now a great deal of PC development goes into creating cross-hardware software. This is why only the high end cards are capable of playing a game the old PS3 from the original release batch runs with little difficulty in comparison.

Look at original PS3 games versus current PS3 games. They don’t compare. A prime demonstration is Modern Warfare 1 2 and 3. They are designed for the same console, but each one has better and better graphics as the developers have worked on improving performance on the same hardware.

AMD’s Radeon 6000 series is new, and developers haven’t had time to create software that properly utilize their powerful hardware. As these new consoles are released, we’ll see more and more games release with mind-blowing graphics, until the process repeats and we’re back here. Arguing about the next amd graphics card that won’t perform as advertised.

By: Brian Camba

Brian Camba — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:04:00 +0000

It does actually, if the hardware is not capable of handling the coding given. Its 50/50. All the processing power in the world is moot if the programer sucks same as a superhero quality coder will do squat with an NES.

By: Codie Schmidt

Codie Schmidt — Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:02:00 +0000

it does because the ram shortage in current consoles cause developers to have to choose between graphics and quality AI

By: Codie Schmidt

Codie Schmidt — Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:02:00 +0000

it does because the ram shortage in current consoles cause developers to have to choose between graphics and quality AI

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:30:00 +0000

Hopefully a much improved story-line aswell ;)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:24:00 +0000

Wait they changed the date? Proos is always nice! Roomers has it they will show off a new console next year E3 2012, but when will it launch? 2013 or 14? And developers need time to make a game lol a good game like that will require 3 years average. 2015 is just right if not later.

By: GameplaySUCKS

GameplaySUCKS — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:32:00 +0000

your wrong it will be sooner

By: GameplaySUCKS

GameplaySUCKS — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:32:00 +0000

your wrong it will be sooner

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:01:00 +0000

Because the devices are all exactly the same, it allows game developers to squeeze more out of the CPU and GPU than on the PC. Not long ago the AMD graphics chief was whining how PC developer interfaces have too much overhead.

By: Etzer Omar Rivera

Etzer Omar Rivera — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:56:00 +0000

What? How the hell did you get that from my comment? If you actually read my comment, you would see that all I said was that I’ll believe these claims of the next Xbox’s graphical power when I actually see some gameplay footage. At this point, it’s all talk; similar to how Sony claimed the Vita’s graphics would be better than the PS3, when in reality it doesn’t come close.

Learn to read before you start insulting people.

By: First Name

First Name — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:49:00 +0000

I’ve been spoiled by games like Pixeljunk Shooter. First on my wish list is realistic interactive water in 3D in real time.

I know it’s not too much to ask; from my own experimentation I’m certain the 360′s CPU was powerful enough for high-quality 2D fluid, though curiously (to my knowledge) no game developers tried. It really is a trivial algorithm and even lends itself very well to GPU acceleration (though, via XNA at least, the Xbox GPU wasn’t really fast enough at the sorting routines needed for an all-on-GPU solution).

By: First Name

First Name — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:49:00 +0000

I’ve been spoiled by games like Pixeljunk Shooter. First on my wish list is realistic interactive water in 3D in real time.

By: First Name

First Name — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:33:00 +0000

It’s possible. They did it before with the 360. If you recall, the GPU used in the 360 was ATI’s first unified shader architecture implementation and what became the basis for the Radeon HD 2000 series cards.

By: Average Joe

Average Joe — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:54:00 +0000

AMD’s beefiest PC video card is as large as a PS3, sucks 415 W of power, and delivers nowhere near the same level of detail as Avatar. So is AMD offering Microsoft a technology that they don’t even use on their own CPUs/GPUs?
I still remember how the PlayStation 2 was supposed to offer the same graphics as “the phantom menace” movie… (or something like that).

By: Dsdr

Dsdr — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:52:00 +0000

Dude. Are you serious? PRobably one of those that wants to go back to NES because its pure! Poser hipster

By: Etzer Omar Rivera

Etzer Omar Rivera — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:26:00 +0000

Yeah, am I the only one that was not at all impressed by Avatar? Regardless, I’ll believe these claims when I see the console in action. Remember how the Vita was supposed to be more powerful than a PS3? The footage we’ve seen so far looks no where near the PS3′s level.

By: James Matthews

James Matthews — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:48:00 +0000

I’m all for better graphics but a higher level of AI and Physics is more important I think.

By: James Matthews

James Matthews — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:48:00 +0000

I’m all for better graphics but a higher level of AI and Physics is more important I think.

By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:48:00 +0000

It’s funny how the dude implies that the AI is somewhat depending more on the hardware than on the coding skills of the developers.

By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:48:00 +0000

It’s funny how the dude implies that the AI is somewhat depending more on the hardware than on the coding skills of the developers.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:19:00 +0000

In 2015? It better